Originally Posted by genec (Post 13329152)

Based on what I encountered the other day at the local warehouse supermarket; far too many people pushing their "trolleys" into bad locations and blocking aisles, it comes as no surprise that to me that the majority of these folks are motorists. There was little in the way of orderly thinking being exhibited in that market.

As a cyclist I found that the easiest solution was to park my "trolley" well away from goods and displays and take advantage of my narrow profile to zip about and secure the items I needed. :D

Originally Posted by CaptCarrot (Post 13328767)

Well I always say you can tell a lot about people's driving/riding ability by the way they push a supermarket trolley. ...

Originally Posted by genec (Post 13329152)

Based on what I encountered the other day at the local warehouse supermarket; far too many people pushing their "trolleys" into bad locations and blocking aisles, it comes as no surprise that to me that the majority of these folks are motorists. There was little in the way of orderly thinking being exhibited in that market.

As a cyclist I found that the easiest solution was to park my "trolley" well away from goods and displays and take advantage of my narrow profile to zip about and secure the items I needed. :D

Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy (Post 13330737)

Genec,

Have you noticed that a lot of them "drive" their "trolley" the same way that they drive their car?

Originally Posted by genec (Post 13329152)

Based on what I encountered the other day at the local warehouse supermarket; far too many people pushing their "trolleys" into bad locations and blocking aisles, it comes as no surprise that to me that the majority of these folks are motorists. There was little in the way of orderly thinking being exhibited in that market.

As a cyclist I found that the easiest solution was to park my "trolley" well away from goods and displays and take advantage of my narrow profile to zip about and secure the items I needed. :D

Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy (Post 13330737)

Genec,

Have you noticed that a lot of them "drive" their "trolley" the same way that they drive their car?

Originally Posted by Daves_Not_Here (Post 13334656)

I'm thinking about adding another category of cyclist misbehavior: consistently finding fault with how others drive their cars, bikes or grocery carts :lol:

Originally Posted by SBRDude (Post 13333518)

I was hoping "cyclists behaving badly" was going to be more like "girls gone wild..."

Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 13334777)

What it is, is a gaggle of silly geese whining about all those meanies who aren't as perfect as themselves. This tired theme of of complaining about cyclists who don't meet the holy roller standards of the holier than thou crowd is real old and all worn out. Give it a rest, jokers.

Originally Posted by vol (Post 13334857)

I mentioned in an earlier thread about the cyclists spitting from the bike. Got many replies apparently from people who spit. I'd rather be hit by a bike than have someone's spit blown on my face.

Originally Posted by donger (Post 13319511)

Perhaps I can offer a perspective from a cyclist/cop view. First, a little bit about me. I'm a cop in Northern CA. I took up cycling almost a year ago. I've logged 3000 miles this year, ridden 1 century, several metric centuries, and several half-centuries. I love cycling and I've also lost 35 lbs.
I know that motorist can be jackasses and ignorant when it comes to cyclists. I also believe that some cyclists are also jackasses and ignorant. It's like how some of the public view cops...you don't remember the positive contacts but the negative contacts will be forever ingrained in your mind. It's the same with cyclists.
As a motorist, I've come across riders on a one lane mountain road, 3 riders across, effectively blocking the lane and making passing the cyclists unsafe. I've encountered a single rider on the same road, riding in the center of the roadway with the bike helmet strapped onto the handle bars. Today, while working, I had a cyclist in a busy intersection who was stopped in the left turn with no cars in the lane. The light didn't change for the cyclist and, as I drove by in my police car, he looked at me, raised both arms and yelled at me (as if I could do anything about the light).
Here's some information that might help everyone here. If you encounter a signal light that won't change for bicycles, don't yell at the cops. Call Traffic Engineering and tell them. I guarantee that a normal citizen complaining will hold more weight that if a cop calls them up and tells them.
About cars making right turns at an intersection where there is a bike lane. The CA Vehicle Code (CVC) requires drivers to make a right turn as close as practical to the right curb or edge of the roadway [22100(a) CVC]. Also, the driver can be in the bike lane to make a right turn 200 feet from the intersection, even if the dotted lines aren't 200 feet long [22109(a)(3) CVC].
Now, about riders riding side-by-side. 21202(a) CVC says for cyclists going slower than the normal flow of traffic is required to ride as near to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway AS PRACTICAL EXCEPT WHEN: (1) overtaking or passing a cyclist, pedestrian, or slower vehicle, (2) preparing to make a left turn at an intersection, private road or driveway, (3) REASONABLY necessary to avoid hazardous conditions or debris.
21208(a) CVC requires cyclists to use the bike lane when traveling below the normal speed of traffic. The same exceptions listed above also apply here.

I hope this bit of information helps and it is not my intention to offend or upset any riders here. Feel free to ask me questions if you have any.

Originally Posted by unterhausen (Post 13319657)

I'm guessing it says practicable, no? There is a significant difference between practicable and practical. The average LEO is not qualified to determine either practicality or what is practicable for an experienced cyclist in my book. Does motorist convenience trump safety in your view?

Originally Posted by Daves_Not_Here (Post 13351240)

With less than two weeks until the event, The National Multiple Sclerosis Society is having to re-route the upcoming MS150 Bay to Bay fund-raising ride to avoid Newport Beach due to objections over cyclists' behavior in the previous year's event. Apparently the issues related to cyclists' failure to ride within the boundaries that had been defined for the event.

I rode in the event last year and recall that certain sections of the route were pretty strictly laid out to separate the event's cycling traffic. The event coordinators were fairly explicit in their instructions to stay within posted boundaries and to ride single file in certain areas. Most everyone I encountered was pretty cool, but I do recall that some of the riders were dismissive of the ride marshalls' instructions to adhere to the rules. Didn't really think much more about it until now.

Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy (Post 13352730)

How's this?

Today as I'm heading out for my usual ride, I encounter a woman who is salmoning down the sidewalk, talking on her cell phone AND carrying her young child on the handlebars of her bike.

Originally Posted by dynodonn (Post 13366801)

I'll see your salmoning mom and child, and rise you with a young woman riding in traffic without a helmet, large shopping bag strapped to the handle bars, no mirror, listening to music with both ears covered by head phones, and drinking coffee/chocolate from a large coffee cup. ;)

Originally Posted by CB HI (Post 13366999)

Your just jealous that you do not have the mad cycling skills that she has.:p

Originally Posted by dynodonn (Post 13366801)

I'll see your salmoning mom and child, and rise you with a young woman riding in traffic without a helmet, large shopping bag strapped to the handle bars, no mirror, listening to music with both ears covered by head phones, and drinking coffee/chocolate from a large coffee cup. ;)

Originally Posted by dynodonn (Post 13366801)

I'll see your salmoning mom and child, and rise you with a young woman riding in traffic without a helmet, large shopping bag strapped to the handle bars, no mirror, listening to music with both ears covered by head phones, and drinking coffee/chocolate from a large coffee cup. ;)

Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy (Post 13367143)

The one(s) that I really "LOVE" to watch are the one's who are texting and swerving all over the place.