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smd4 03-09-24 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Duragrouch (Post 23179221)
No, but no need. One drop penetrates the rollers and capillary action holds it in place. I get no formation of oil drops on the bottom.

No formation of oil drops? Thank God! That’s your idea of a good thing??!! Why do you need all that oil on the outside of your chain? Geeze, I hated working on bikes from you guys who think that if a little oil is good, a lot must be better. Disgusting and a sure sign someone didn’t know how to maintain his bike.

13ollocks 03-09-24 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Kai Winters (Post 23179169)
You're supposed to run the chain over something round to loosen it up and break the links free before installing it. I use a piece of pvc pipe I had laying around. At the bike shop we use an old mtn bike handlebar.

I’m not sure that you’re “supposed” to do anything. It might be what you do, and it works for you, so well done. Me, I simply reinstall the waxed chain on the bike, run the chain up through the gears, and it’s done. Last thing is a quick wipe of the DS chain stay to remove the wax flakes - all set.

choddo 03-09-24 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by smd4 (Post 23179480)
No formation of oil drops? Thank God! That’s your idea of a good thing??!! Why do you need all that oil on the outside of your chain?

He was saying not having them was a good thing.

choddo 03-09-24 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by 13ollocks (Post 23179543)
I’m not sure that you’re “supposed” to do anything. It might be what you do, and it works for you, so well done. Me, I simply reinstall the waxed chain on the bike, run the chain up through the gears, and it’s done. Last thing is a quick wipe of the DS chain stay to remove the wax flakes - all set.

I have to crack all the links just to get it installed. Only done it twice as I mentioned but it’s easy enough by hand.

smd4 03-09-24 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by choddo (Post 23179745)
He was saying not having them was a good thing.

I know. Sometimes sarcasm doesn’t translate well.

Duragrouch 03-09-24 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by choddo (Post 23179358)
Toothbrush between the spokes at some point, probably.

:) I was just indicating a representative analogous brush. If I used a toothbrush zip-tied to the right dropout, I would cut off most of the handle.

A guy gets a flat tire alongside an insane asylum. He jacks up the car, takes off the lug nuts and puts them in the hub cap, puts the spare tire on, but when he turns around to get the lug nuts, he accidentally knocks it all into the ditch filled with deep water. "Now what am I going to do?" A guy peeks out through the bars of the asylum and says, "Just take one lug nut from the other three wheels, use those on the spare, and replace all when you get to town." "That's a great idea! What're you doing in there? How did you know that?" "I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid."

choddo 03-10-24 02:13 AM


Originally Posted by smd4 (Post 23179815)
I know. Sometimes sarcasm doesn’t translate well.

Hmm. Ok but having loads of oil coating the chain does cause problems with it picking up a lot more filth?

smd4 03-10-24 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by choddo (Post 23180099)
Hmm. Ok but having loads of oil coating the chain does cause problems with it picking up a lot more filth?

My point exactly.

choddo 03-10-24 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by smd4 (Post 23180253)
My point exactly.

OK but then I don't understand sarcasm nearly as well as I thought I did :lol:

smd4 03-10-24 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by choddo (Post 23180258)
OK but then I don't understand sarcasm nearly as well as I thought I did :lol:

Clearly.

choddo 03-10-24 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by smd4 (Post 23180260)
Clearly.

OK since you're going to be like that

No formation of oil drops? Thank God! That’s your idea of a good thing??!!
-> The first two sentences are not sarcasm you were agreeing with him.
The third sentence is not sarcasm, it's incredulity.
What it is is confusing since the third sentence seems to contradict the first two and why I wrote my original reply but I guess you were directing it at someone(s) else who disagrees with the two of you and left you an ugly chain to work on... and that's what I misunderstood.


Why do you need all that oil on the outside of your chain? Geeze, I hated working on bikes from you guys who think that if a little oil is good, a lot must be better. Disgusting and a sure sign someone didn’t know how to maintain his bike.
None of this is sarcasm either. It's just telling people off for screwing up their oil allocation.

smd4 03-10-24 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by choddo (Post 23180560)
OK since you're going to be like that

-> The first two sentences are not sarcasm you were agreeing with him.
The third sentence is not sarcasm, it's incredulity.
What it is is confusing since the third sentence seems to contradict the first two and why I wrote my original reply but I guess you were directing it at someone(s) else who disagrees with the two of you and left you an ugly chain to work on... and that's what I misunderstood.


None of this is sarcasm either. It's just telling people off for screwing up their oil allocation.

Noted. Thanks.


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