One Man’s View Of Disc Brakes
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I asked the owner of the LBS here in Hialeah, (Leon) who's been in biz for more than 50 years and his answer was: If you plan on riding in wet weather, disc brakes are superior. If not stick with rim brakes. I did.
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Um, good for him? Is there a reason that I'm supposed to care about his reasons and how he weights them more than my own? I mean, there are trade-offs either way - choose the compromise that you're most comfortable with and don't worry about whether or not that works for someone else.
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What are "disc beakes"? Are these an anatomical feature of some newly-discovered species of bird?
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I appreciated that he wasn’t out to have a “disc bash.” I mean, I have discs and I’m really tired of people saying they’re heavy and hard to maintain and stuff.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 21082771)
Um, good for him? Is there a reason that I'm supposed to care about his reasons and how he weights them more than my own? I mean, there are trade-offs either way - choose the compromise that you're most comfortable with and don't worry about whether or not that works for someone else.
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Originally Posted by badger1
(Post 21082780)
What are "disc beakes"? Are these an anatomical feature of some newly-discovered species of bird?
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Originally Posted by colnago62
(Post 21082804)
No more so than we should care about yours.
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All those mid-paragraph cuts reminded me of this
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 21082827)
I'm sure that you intended this as a dis, but you're exactly right, which I why I would never bother with a self-important video. I really don't care if my reasons don't apply or carry the same weight with you, just like I don't care if this guy's reasons don't resonate with me.
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Originally Posted by colnago62
(Post 21082846)
You asked a question and I answered. Judging your post, you agree with my response.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21082793)
I appreciated that he wasn’t out to have a “disc bash.” I mean, I have discs and I’m really tired of people saying they’re heavy and hard to maintain and stuff.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21082793)
I appreciated that he wasn’t out to have a “disc bash.” I mean, I have discs and I’m really tired of people saying they’re heavy and hard to maintain and stuff.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
(Post 21082935)
Hard to maintain, and confusing like a FD.
But seriously, FDs are long sorted. Road disc is still undercooked, IMO. Companies need to get it together WRT adhering to standards, and the calipers can use a tad more pad gap I reckon. |
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
(Post 21082935)
Hard to maintain, and confusing like a FD.
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Originally Posted by colnago62
(Post 21082865)
The one reason that I found interesting was about weight limit and how he would like to use the added weight to make the bike more aero.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21082957)
Yes, it was an interesting point and potentially relevant for those at a level where 100s of grams and single digit Watts matter.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21082957)
Yes, it was an interesting point and potentially relevant for those at a level where 100s of grams and single digit Watts matter.
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Originally Posted by colnago62
(Post 21083035)
Yes, clearly he races at a high level an views his needs that way.
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I mean, I don't care what kind of computer Bill Gates uses either.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 21083077)
Come now. It's the 41 - it's applicable to everyone. Any other conclusion is herd think and swallowing the pills that Big Bike feeds us.
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Originally Posted by Kimmo
(Post 21082946)
At least FDs can't leak, unless you're that one guy with a Rotor one.
But seriously, FDs are long sorted. Road disc is still undercooked, IMO. Companies need to get it together WRT adhering to standards, and the calipers can use a tad more pad gap I reckon. |
I think it's a good video, and I like this guy. That being said, he:
1. mostly uses alloy wheels. 2. rarely rides in the rain. 3. doesn't do long descents. 4. rarely ventures off the tarmac. 5. doesn't appear to weigh very much. Rim brakes are a good choice in his situation. If you aren't rail-thin, if you ride in the mountains, and you prefer carbon wheels, however, you might find disc brakes offer an advantage. |
Originally Posted by Kimmo
(Post 21082946)
At least FDs can't leak, unless you're that one guy with a Rotor one.
But seriously, FDs are long sorted. Road disc is still undercooked, IMO. Companies need to get it together WRT adhering to standards, and the calipers can use a tad more pad gap I reckon. |
Originally Posted by tomato coupe
(Post 21083155)
I think it's a good video, and I like this guy. That being said, he:
1. mostly uses alloy wheels. 2. rarely rides in the rain. 3. doesn't do long descents. 4. rarely ventures off the tarmac. 5. doesn't appear to weigh very much. Rim brakes are a good choice in his situation. If you aren't rail-thin, if you ride in the mountains, and you prefer carbon wheels, however, you might find disc brakes offer an advantage. |
Originally Posted by colnago62
(Post 21083211)
The smartest thing the music instrument industry did was agree on the midi system. This allows all equipment, regardless of manufacturer to work together.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
(Post 21083223)
A broken standard from it's inception that is still annoying people to this day....but sure. Call it smart, by all means
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Good video and he makes good points.
Basically disc brakes are not the best solution for all situations and the same for rim brakes. Just got to figure out what is best for your application. |
A really intelligent and well informed perspective on disc brakes for road bikes. And gutsy too: if he hopes to get a bike sponsorship for next season, he'd better get on the manufacturer bandwagon. Not even the elite level pros and their mechanics can resist the pressure from their masters. But then the purpose of racing is to satisfy the advertising needs of the bike makers and component manufacturers, and right now that need is to sell disc brake bikes to dentists.
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A critical comment in this video may have been missed as it passed by so quickly. The video was obviously made by an elite-level cyclist (racing for money) whose needs are pure performance.
The key comment was that if he is training, then he'll be on alu clinchers, and racing, carbon tubulars. Both clinchers and discs introduce significant performance penalties, due to unavoidably higher rotating mass. In addition, carbon tubulars are a lot safer than carbon clinchers, as they handle braking heat far better, and are substantially less terrifying in the event of a rapid blowout. |
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