Site to report dangerous drivers
While it seems that CloseCalls website may be down, there is a site that is a "Find by Plate Number" type that does have a section to report dangerous drivers. At least there can be some record and narrative if needed in the future.
https://findbyplate.com/US/GA/QBI8442/add-report/ |
Originally Posted by Digger Goreman
(Post 21673810)
While it seems that CloseCalls website may be down, there is a site that is a "Find by Plate Number" type that does have a section to report dangerous drivers. At least there can be some record and narrative if needed in the future.
https://findbyplate.com/US/GA/QBI8442/add-report/ I think the best place to report dangerous drivers is to your local police dept. |
Originally Posted by Koyote
(Post 21673990)
I think the best place to report dangerous drivers is to your local police dept.
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There’s an A&S forum for that.
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes
(Post 21674178)
Yes and no. If someone's being a menace to other road users, by all means report them. But just don't be surprised if nothing happens. Like the old saying goes, there's never a cop around when you need one. Just the other evening someone was running a quad 4-wheeler (bigger than a standard 4-wheeler, like a car but open and smaller) up & down the street in front of our house at probably 50 MPH. Of course they were long gone and probably parked by the time the sheriff's deputy showed up. I don't blame the police, they're often understaffed and dealing with higher priority calls, and driving complaints are low-priority. So yeah, if they happen to be in the area and catch them, good. But I don't expect miracles. And often even if they find the offending vehicle but they're not driving recklessly when the police see them, there's little they can do.
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Originally Posted by Digger Goreman
(Post 21673810)
While it seems that CloseCalls website may be down, there is a site that is a "Find by Plate Number" type that does have a section to report dangerous drivers. At least there can be some record and narrative if needed in the future.
https://findbyplate.com/US/GA/QBI8442/add-report/ |
Originally Posted by sarhog
(Post 21674372)
What do you hope to accomplish by “reporting” dangerous drivers to a website such as this?
By reporting dangerous drivers, a record will exist of their dangerous activities. Should one of those drivers end up in court, their record would establish that the dangerous driver has a documented history of driving dangerously. This can lead to stiffer penalties, since the record will show a pattern of behavior, and it (hopefully) prevents a dangerous driver from being given leniency. |
get a bicycle mounted vid recorder. easier to provide actual evidence if something occurs.
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Originally Posted by Troul
(Post 21674402)
get a bicycle mounted vid recorder. easier to provide actual evidence if something occurs.
The Cycliq website is nice, but I don't know if they are willing to allow anyone to upload videos, or only Cycliq users. |
Originally Posted by BoraxKid
(Post 21674385)
Too often, dangerous drivers are let off with inadequate penalties because it's their first time in court.
By reporting dangerous drivers, a record will exist of their dangerous activities. Should one of those drivers end up in court, their record would establish that the dangerous driver has a documented history of driving dangerously. This can lead to stiffer penalties, since the record will show a pattern of behavior, and it (hopefully) prevents a dangerous driver from being given leniency. You'll get as much response as calling the number on the back of a work truck to tell them their driver cut you off. You know who calls those? People that mainly got frustrated and did not like what you did and think they can "get you" and want to do nothing else in the next few minutes but report you risking their own driving talking on the phone in traffic and spending valuable brain cycles reliving how frustrated they are. It has NOTHING to do with actual danger and legality. Do you know what those report me numbers actually do? Save the driver and the their companies insurance from getting involved in a road rage indecent by giving the other person a perceived useful outlet of frustration instead of further escalation. Think about that. |
Originally Posted by BoraxKid
(Post 21674385)
Too often, dangerous drivers are let off with inadequate penalties because it's their first time in court.
By reporting dangerous drivers, a record will exist of their dangerous activities. Should one of those drivers end up in court, their record would establish that the dangerous driver has a documented history of driving dangerously. This can lead to stiffer penalties, since the record will show a pattern of behavior, and it (hopefully) prevents a dangerous driver from being given leniency. I will leave it to the BF legal scholars, (licensed, would-be or otherwise) to give an opinion if a "record" of alleged "dangerous behavior" gathered by such a non governmental call-in hotline/website would carry any weight at all in a court for determining a defendent's guilt for a specific violation/crime or could be used when determining a penalty, especially for a defendant who is in court for the first time. My untrained legal opinion is that such alleged "evidence" of previous "dangerous activities" based on such so-called reports would be found irrelevant in any court. |
Originally Posted by BoraxKid
(Post 21674385)
Too often, dangerous drivers are let off with inadequate penalties because it's their first time in court.
By reporting dangerous drivers, a record will exist of their dangerous activities. Should one of those drivers end up in court, their record would establish that the dangerous driver has a documented history of driving dangerously. This can lead to stiffer penalties, since the record will show a pattern of behavior, and it (hopefully) prevents a dangerous driver from being given leniency. |
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
(Post 21674472)
As can be seen elsewhere on BF some cyclists have a very low tolerance for motorists anywhere in their vicinity and seem to consider most, if not all, motorists as dangerous and seem to report all kinds of issues with "dangerous" motorists quite frequently to BF.
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Originally Posted by u235
(Post 21674462)
You haven't thought that through and the OBVIOUS abuse this could cause.
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes
(Post 21674663)
Unfortunately I don't think entries on a website like that would be admissible in court. A competent attorney or anyone able to represent themselves competently would be able to get it thrown out, mainly because all the entries on that website are just allegations and not proven. All the entries, if no video is available, are just one person's word against another's, and there's no way to prevent someone from harassing someone else by creating false entries using their vehicle & tag information. Even with video, it can be hard to prove that the defendant was the one driving. All the judge will go on is the defendant's driving record as held by the state anyway.
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Originally Posted by BoraxKid
(Post 21674703)
I think the idea that you're missing here is that the people who logged the events can be contacted, and then they could give sworn statements about their encounters with a given driver. I agree it's probably a long shot to actually work, but like I said earlier, it's not my site, not my organization, and not my problem.
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes
(Post 21674724)
I really don't think any court is going to go through that trouble, unless maybe if it's a dangerous driving resulting in death case. If it's a simple moving violation, say violating the 3 ft. passing rule, they're not going to bother.
And yes, the "reporting" site exists for when a driver has done something serious, i.e. caused injury to someone and/or killed someone, and is already facing a court date. The idea is that these organizations spend some time monitoring court cases so they are aware of when someone from their database is in court for something major. Then, the reporting group alerts the prosecutor(s) to the information they have. In an ideal world, the prosecution would be motivated to do the right thing and make sure justice is served against the dangerous driver, but like we already agreed, there's practically no chance of that happening in reality. |
Originally Posted by mstateglfr
(Post 21674733)
The website would be worthless in court.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
(Post 21674770)
If there was a website for reporting on-line harassment, Borax would have filed an entry for you, because he dreamt that you are an angry person that personally attacked him.
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Originally Posted by BoraxKid
(Post 21674672)
Calm down. It's not my website, and I'm not the one advocating for it. Someone asked the question "why does this exist?" and I gave the reason why. Why are you so defensive?
I didn't think I was, it was a simply a counterpoint... Call 1800-555-1212 and complain user u235 is hostile and defensive and does not agree with you. The irony :) |
Originally Posted by BoraxKid
(Post 21674750)
The idea is that these organizations spend some time monitoring court cases so they are aware of when someone from their database is in court for something major. Then, the reporting group alerts the prosecutor(s) to the information they have. In an ideal world, the prosecution would be motivated to do the right thing and make sure justice is served against the dangerous driver, but like we already agreed, there's practically no chance of that happening in reality.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
(Post 21674797)
I think the reality of this "idea" exists only in the imagination of wishful thinkers and nobody plans on doing any such "alerting" activity based on this pseudo-vigilante database.
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Originally Posted by BoraxKid
(Post 21674672)
Calm down. It's not my website, and I'm not the one advocating for it. Someone asked the question "why does this exist?" and I gave the reason why. Why are you so defensive?
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes
(Post 21674663)
Unfortunately I don't think entries on a website like that would be admissible in court.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
(Post 21674822)
I don't think the poster was being "defensive." I think he was just pointing out the absurdity of your claim - as have several other posters.
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