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GAtkins 09-03-20 12:11 PM

1Up Rack Hitch Pin Won't Engage With Lock
 
All,

I can't get my 1Up hitch pin to engage with the inside of the lock mechanism. The pic below shows as far as it will go in before bottoming out on the internal female threads.

Of course the male screw thread is rectangular as well as the portion you can see right where it inters the lock. I think the non-threaded rectangular portion of the screw is supposed to go all the way in past the lip in the female side so that it can then be turned to engage the internal threads.

Seems that the pin bottoms out on the internal thread before the rectangular piece clears the opening in the lock.

The wheel locks have the same problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks much.

Glenn
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ae5960d5b9.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3a5572c20b.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...620d2a8970.jpg

dedhed 09-03-20 01:01 PM

https://www.1up-usa.com/services/#14...-e70d5c49-b88c

GAtkins 09-03-20 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by dedhed (Post 21676367)

That's awesome. I've already called and emailed them to no avail. I didn't see anything in your link related to my specific issue, but thanks for playing.

Glenn

MikeEckhaus 09-03-20 01:25 PM

Seems strange that they all have the same problem. Stupid question, and please don't be mad at me for suggesting it, but have you made sure the key was turned counterclockwise all the way before inserting the male end? I know, it's like asking if the computer is actually on when you call Apple tech support, but I was just trying to think of what could cause all of them to have the same problem. Do they physically work and just not look right, or do they not work? IIRC, they do draw in a little as you are tightening the threads with the key. Also, I'm not totally sure they go all the way in when engaged. My 1up locks are at home, so I can see what mine look like when engaged later tonight.

GAtkins 09-03-20 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by MikeEckhaus (Post 21676428)
Seems strange that they all have the same problem. Stupid question, and please don't be mad at me for suggesting it, but have you made sure the key was turned counterclockwise all the way before inserting the male end? I know, it's like asking if the computer is actually on when you call Apple tech support, but I was just trying to think of what could cause all of them to have the same problem. Do they physically work and just not look right, or do they not work? IIRC, they do draw in a little as you are tightening the threads with the key. Also, I'm not totally sure they go all the way in when engaged. My 1up locks are at home, so I can see what mine look like when engaged later tonight.

Well, it turns out that the computer was off. Gawd! That worked. Thank you. That is the single-most counter intuitive situation I have encountered in a very long time - tightening a bolt with a key - unreal.

Either that wasn't in the instructions or I missed it (more likely). I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help. Is it safe to use the rack with just the Security Hitch Bolt screwed in with the Security wrench? It seems so, but then again, I'm not sure. Again, many thanks.

Glenn

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e86b597f8c.jpg

MikeEckhaus 09-03-20 02:29 PM

Glad it worked out. Free fixes are the best kind. On your security bolt/wrench question, I assume you mean the hex key/Allen wrench that fits into the end of the hitch and tightens the rack to the hitch? If so, yes, it's totally safe. Everything beyond that is just insurance. Just make sure it's tight. The keyed hitch lock isn't for attaching the hitch, it's just to keep someone from stealing it. Enjoy!

GAtkins 09-03-20 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by MikeEckhaus (Post 21676529)
Glad it worked out. Free fixes are the best kind. On your security bolt/wrench question, I assume you mean the hex key/Allen wrench that fits into the end of the hitch and tightens the rack to the hitch? If so, yes, it's totally safe. Everything beyond that is just insurance. Just make sure it's tight. The keyed hitch lock isn't for attaching the hitch, it's just to keep someone from stealing it. Enjoy!

OK, that's what I thought but wanted to make sure. Thanks again.

Glenn

August West 09-03-20 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by GAtkins (Post 21676533)
OK, that's what I thought but wanted to make sure. Thanks again.

Glenn

I'd make sure to attached the safety strap to the hitch also. It will keep the rack from detaching from the hitch and skidding down the road with your bike should the tightening mechanism ever loosen up.

Kapusta 09-03-20 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by August West (Post 21676564)
I'd make sure to attached the safety strap to the hitch also. It will keep the rack from detaching from the hitch and skidding down the road with your bike should the tightening mechanism ever loosen up.

If the OP has the lock that goes through the hitch pin holes, then it will take care of that.

GAtkins 09-04-20 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by August West (Post 21676564)
I'd make sure to attached the safety strap to the hitch also. It will keep the rack from detaching from the hitch and skidding down the road with your bike should the tightening mechanism ever loosen up.

What safety strap do you use?


Originally Posted by Kapusta (Post 21677166)
If the OP has the lock that goes through the hitch pin holes, then it will take care of that.

Yes I do have the locking hitch pin.

Thanks.

Glenn

August West 09-04-20 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Kapusta (Post 21677166)
If the OP has the lock that goes through the hitch pin holes, then it will take care of that.

Good point. Mine is one of the original 1 ¼" w/ 2" adapter bolted on so I wan't thinking of the 2" with the through pin.

August West 09-04-20 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by GAtkins (Post 21677532)
What safety strap do you use?



Yes I do have the locking hitch pin.

Thanks.

Glenn

Then you won't need the strap. Mine is has the 1 ¼" w/ 2" adapter where the locking hitch pin isn't an option. It came with a velcro strap that would keep the rack from sliding out if it came loose. I kind of wish my was the 2" and if I used it more than I do I'd probably upgrade it but since it doesn't get a ton of use I'm just keeping the 1 ¼" + adapter.

GAtkins 09-04-20 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by August West (Post 21677699)
Then you won't need the strap. Mine is has the 1 ¼" w/ 2" adapter where the locking hitch pin isn't an option. It came with a velcro strap that would keep the rack from sliding out if it came loose. I kind of wish my was the 2" and if I used it more than I do I'd probably upgrade it but since it doesn't get a ton of use I'm just keeping the 1 ¼" + adapter.

Good to know, thank you.

Glenn

Kapusta 09-04-20 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by August West (Post 21677699)
Then you won't need the strap. Mine is has the 1 ¼" w/ 2" adapter where the locking hitch pin isn't an option. It came with a velcro strap that would keep the rack from sliding out if it came loose. I kind of wish my was the 2" and if I used it more than I do I'd probably upgrade it but since it doesn't get a ton of use I'm just keeping the 1 ¼" + adapter.

I had the 1-1/4” version and upgraded it to 2” by buying the 2” hitch bar with side plates: https://www.1up-usa.com/product/2-hi...h-side-plates/

sarhog 09-04-20 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Kapusta (Post 21678022)
I had the 1-1/4” version and upgraded it to 2” by buying the 2” hitch bar with side plates: https://www.1up-usa.com/product/2-hi...h-side-plates/

I had to do the opposite. I originally had the 2” version, but I traded my truck for a VW GTI, and I had to go with a 1 1/4” receiver, so I bought the parts from One Up USA to convert the rack to a 1 1/4”.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7ac93f4fd.jpeg

Kapusta 09-04-20 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by sarhog (Post 21678129)
I had to do the opposite. I originally had the 2” version, but I traded my truck for a VW GTI, and I had to go with a 1 1/4” receiver, so I bought the parts from One Up USA to convert the rack to a 1 1/4”.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7ac93f4fd.jpeg

Well, shoot. We could have just traded.

BoraxKid 09-04-20 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by GAtkins (Post 21676265)
All,

I can't get my 1Up hitch pin to engage with the inside of the lock mechanism. The pic below shows as far as it will go in before bottoming out on the internal female threads.

Of course the male screw thread is rectangular as well as the portion you can see right where it inters the lock. I think the non-threaded rectangular portion of the screw is supposed to go all the way in past the lip in the female side so that it can then be turned to engage the internal threads.

Seems that the pin bottoms out on the internal thread before the rectangular piece clears the opening in the lock.

The wheel locks have the same problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks much.

Glenn

Those parts all look brand new. If they don't fit together easily, I would suspect a manufacturing defect from shoddy worksmanship. It might be best to return that rack and buy a Thule instead.

Kapusta 09-04-20 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by BoraxKid (Post 21678252)
Those parts all look brand new. If they don't fit together easily, I would suspect a manufacturing defect from shoddy worksmanship..

Nope

Rogerogeroge 09-04-20 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by sarhog (Post 21678129)
I had to do the opposite. I originally had the 2” version, but I traded my truck for a VW GTI, and I had to go with a 1 1/4” receiver, so I bought the parts from One Up USA to convert the rack to a 1 1/4”.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7ac93f4fd.jpeg

That is one of many reasons they are awesome, but sorry that in a way you had to 'downgrade'.

Rogerogeroge 09-04-20 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by BoraxKid (Post 21678252)
Those parts all look brand new. If they don't fit together easily, I would suspect a manufacturing defect from shoddy worksmanship. It might be best to return that rack and buy a Thule instead.

Really? OP already found the silly solution. Have you ever used a 1Up?

phughes 09-04-20 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by GAtkins (Post 21676381)
That's awesome. I've already called and emailed them to no avail. I didn't see anything in your link related to my specific issue, but thanks for playing.

Glenn

What a wonderful person you are to be so kind to someone who actually offered help. Wow.

GAtkins 09-04-20 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by phughes (Post 21678792)
What a wonderful person you are to be so kind to someone who actually offered help. Wow.

Thank you.

Glenn

August West 09-05-20 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by sarhog (Post 21678129)
I had to do the opposite. I originally had the 2” version, but I traded my truck for a VW GTI, and I had to go with a 1 1/4” receiver, so I bought the parts from One Up USA to convert the rack to a 1 1/4”.


Do you still have the 2" hitch and side plates that you want to get rid of?

sarhog 09-07-20 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by August West (Post 21679578)
Do you still have the 2" hitch and side plates that you want to get rid of?

I do. Are you interested in buying it?

BoraxKid 09-08-20 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Rogerogeroge (Post 21678704)
Really? OP already found the silly solution. Have you ever used a 1Up?

Haha, yeah I guess I should have read farther down the thread before smashing reply. Operator error strikes again!

Seriously though, IME if something doesn't work when it's brand new, it usually either operator error or a poorly designed product. OP's situation seems to be a product of both, as it is not common at all to use a key to screw something into place. If the 1UP rack were designed better, its operation would have been intuitive for OP and there would have been nothing to post about.


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