Widest tire on STOCK Brompton?
What is the widest tire that can fit on a stock Brompton and without having to mod anything?
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Originally Posted by timo888
(Post 20780923)
What is the widest tire that can fit on a stock Brompton and without having to mod anything?
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tightest clearance is the rear, drive side chain-stay.. notice they had to dent it for what clearance it has..
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 20780974)
tightest clearance is the rear, drive side chain-stay.. notice they had to dent it for what clearance it has..
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So you should define what a "STOCK" Brompton is in your opinion... The space for tires has only changed very slightly over time but this may offer a more convenient fit for the Scorcher. It will fit even on an MK2 as far as I can judge but there's no guarantee. You might geht into trouble if your Brompton has mudguards - it might be an easier or harder fit and it will be tight anyway. So: does a "STOCK" Brompton have mudguards? :foo: Depends. Again: In Brompton size there is currently no wider tire than the 40mm Scorcher so even if newer models would offer more space it would not make a difference.
Apart from that: Which problem are you trying to solve? If you want a folder with the widest tire possible (just because you like wide tires) than the Brompton is not for you. If you want to solve a different problem it would probably good to name it instead of "wide tires". |
Originally Posted by berlinonaut
(Post 20781433)
So you should define what a "STOCK" Brompton is in your opinion... The space for tires has only changed very slightly over time but this may offer a more convenient fit for the Scorcher. It will fit even on an MK2 as far as I can judge but there's no guarantee. You might geht into trouble if your Brompton has mudguards - it might be an easier or harder fit and it will be tight anyway. So: does a "STOCK" Brompton have mudguards? :foo: Depends. Again: In Brompton size there is currently no wider tire than the 40mm Scorcher so even if newer models would offer more space it would not make a difference.
Apart from that: Which problem are you trying to solve? If you want a folder with the widest tire possible (just because you like wide tires) than the Brompton is not for you. If you want to solve a different problem it would probably good to name it instead of "wide tires". I'm not up to speed on what's available in all tire sizes. I seem to recall seeing some pretty fat looking tires on Bromptons which had been heavily modded ($$$ on top of $$) so I assumed fatter tires were available. The specific problem I'm trying to solve is finding a folding bike whose feel my wife likes (she really likes the feel of the Brompton's M-style but she does not care for the Swift or the Birdy BD-1); it has to be a bike which is capable of riding well not only on pavement but also on gritty/sandy/gravelly/grassy paths (no roots and rocks, just light off-roading on surfaces that can be rather soft) and ideally one which also folds fairly small, since it will be sharing the trunk of the car with a Birdy or a Swift. I will probably be selling the one or the other of those to buy this new bike for her. What bike's ride-feel is closest to the M-style Brompton, and can support a fatter tire? |
Originally Posted by timo888
(Post 20781493)
The specific problem I'm trying to solve is finding a folding bike whose feel my wife likes (she really likes the feel of the Brompton's M-style but she does not care for the Swift or the Birdy BD-1); it has to be a bike which is capable of riding well not only on pavement but also on gritty/sandy/gravelly/grassy paths (no roots and rocks, just light off-roading on surfaces that can be rather soft)
So what you can do with a Brompton w/o any issues is to ride unpaved roads as long as they are not too soft or too uneven. The softer the ground and the more uneven the surface the more useless it becomes. This goes for sand, for deep gravel, for mud and also for nature trails.
Originally Posted by timo888
(Post 20781493)
ideally one which also folds fairly small, since it will be sharing the trunk of the car with a Birdy or a Swift. I will probably be selling the one or the other of those to buy this new bike for her.
What bike's ride-feel is closest to the M-style Brompton, and can support a fatter tire? |
I was hoping the newer generation models might fit a fatter tire. 37 to 40 you only gain , (math) 3mm.. is the search and expense of trying to get green speed tires worth it? only you can decide... I have 406-47 tires on my bike Friday pocket Llama , its a bit more cumbersome to fold.. .. |
Bromptons are not made for deep mud, gravel, roots, large stones etc. My swift with 2" tires is a little better but litle wheel bikes are not mtn bikes or much good in loose gravel. People ride them in all kinds of sketchy environments, though , and sometimes paved streets with cracks and potholes are plenty sketchy. In my opinion, what contributes to the plush Brompton ride is the long wheel base.
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In January this year I rode my 6 speed Brompton for 32 miles on the Hauraki Rail Train in New Zealand. This is mostly a gravel track. It was hard going in places, but definately doable. Plenty of photos of this famous trail on the internet. I was using the stock Schwalbe Marathon tyres. I have since fitted Greenspeed Scorcher tires front and back. My bike does not have mudguards any more due to my fondness of light off road riding. The ride comfort and handling I find is much improved with the fatter tires.
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Schwalbe Marathons are usually pumped up high. Dropping the pressure can help on unpaved surfaces. Brompton wheels are 349 but there is also a 16 inch 305 rim. Those wheels will fit with larger tires and wind up about the same diameter as the 349s with 37 mm tires.
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Even the stockers would benefit from a quick release on the brakes, as they require deflation or pad/cable removal to remove the wheel.
Are there aftermarket brake QR's available for the stock calipers? Adds tools and time to flat repair not to have them. |
Originally Posted by 12boy
(Post 21049148)
Brompton wheels are 349 but there is also a 16 inch 305 rim. Those wheels will fit with larger tires and wind up about the same diameter as the 349s with 37 mm tires.
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Jonesey359 any photos of your trip ? Thanks
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Originally Posted by timo888
(Post 20781493)
The specific problem I'm trying to solve is finding a folding bike whose feel my wife likes (she really likes the feel of the Brompton's M-style but she does not care for the Swift or the Birdy BD-1); it has to be a bike which is capable of riding well not only on pavement but also on gritty/sandy/gravelly/grassy paths (no roots and rocks, just light off-roading on surfaces that can be rather soft) and ideally one which also folds fairly small, since it will be sharing the trunk of the car with a Birdy or a Swift. I will probably be selling the one or the other of those to buy this new bike for her.
If the rides are not long too long and on mostly flat areas, what about the Dahon Curve with 305 16" wheels, 2" tires, and a smaller fold than those with 20" wheels? https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aa75a77794.jpg https://dahon.com/bikes/curve-i3-2/ |
Originally Posted by timo888
(Post 20781493)
The specific problem I'm trying to solve is finding a folding bike whose feel my wife likes (she really likes the feel of the Brompton's M-style but she does not care for the Swift or the Birdy BD-1); it has to be a bike which is capable of riding well not only on pavement but also on gritty/sandy/gravelly/grassy paths (no roots and rocks, just light off-roading on surfaces that can be rather soft) and ideally one which also folds fairly small, since it will be sharing the trunk of the car with a Birdy or a Swift. I will probably be selling the one or the other of those to buy this new bike for her.
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