Chain waxing question
What size crockpot would you recommend?
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A size that fits the coiled up chain and enough wax to cover the chain. Usually far smaller a pot than what most meals would be cooked in. Do you have a store that sells kitchenware near you to check out? Andy
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Thanks Andy, I’m looking at used crockpots online. Saw a 1 quart version…..probably large enough?
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Originally Posted by Biker Pete
(Post 23120382)
Thanks Andy, I’m looking at used crockpots online. Saw a 1 quart version…..probably large enough?
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Originally Posted by Biker Pete
(Post 23120364)
What size crockpot would you recommend?
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Originally Posted by Biker Pete
(Post 23120364)
What size crockpot would you recommend?
Go to a thrift store and buy a used one. It’s not worth buying one on-line. |
the smallest one works for me. $14 at target.
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I recommend saving your money and using a mix of chainsaw bar oil and 4 parts mineral spirits on a cleaned chain. I gave up on hot wax a couple of decades ago because it was a pain and needed to be refried after a ride in the rain.
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Originally Posted by davidad
(Post 23120600)
I recommend saving your money and using a mix of chainsaw bar oil and 4 parts mineral spirits on a cleaned chain. I gave up on hot wax a couple of decades ago because it was a pain and needed to be refried after a ride in the rain.
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Originally Posted by Biker Pete
(Post 23120364)
What size crockpot would you recommend?
But seriously, mine is a small 2 quart Crock Pot. $5 at Goodwill. You may want to use a larger one if you are going to use a hanger or do multiple chains. |
Get the smallest pot you can and use just enough wax to cover the chain. Don't make the mistake I made and got a medium sized pot with way too much wax. now it takes me a whole hour + just to heat the wax up, and even worse- well more than an hour to wait for it to cool down.
Actually let me amend that to - just enough wax to reach where the heating coils are. I don't know about other Crockpots, but mine seems to have the heating coil on the SIDES of the pot roughly a third of the way up the sides. I have no idea why they design it like that. Seems like a really stupid design. So anyways, the wax needs to at least reach where the heating coils are. |
Last year I bought a 2 quart Crock-Pot from Wally World for a whopping $10. I checked their website today it seems they've replaced the CP brand 2 qt model with their own Mainstays brand for the same price. Capacities of slow cooker pots is always less than stated. Two quart would be the smallest size I'd use as the inner pot is tapered, so a chain coiled takes up most of the bottom. If you wanted to have room to move the chain around an oval 3-4 quart one would be great.
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The one you have.
You know, the one in the basement that you bought 20 years ago to make chili and pulled BBQ but hasn't been out of the dark since bolt-on aero bars were a thing. |
I've been using a wax warmer (for removing hair) that I bought for heating accordion wax - 0.5l capacity and it's exactly the right size for 1 chain.
Not currently available on Amazon, but you can find something similar on the web. https://www.amazon.com/Guckmall-Kit%...ct_top?ie=UTF8 It was £27 in 2018. A very useful feature is you set the dial for 92C and just leave it until the wax melts and the chain drops in. |
I use a modification of a method that was put forth years ago by a guy named Garth of the Bicycling magazine forums.
I heat up the chain in the oven to about 190 degrees in a pie pan, sprinkle it with a little powdered graphite, then rub it with a cake of wax. Turn it over and repeat. Works fine, I don't have to deal with a pot of hot wax, and the most time-consuming part is waiting for the oven to come up to temperature. |
Originally Posted by MikeWMass
(Post 23121792)
I use a modification of a method that was put forth years ago by a guy named Garth of the Bicycling magazine forums.
I heat up the chain in the oven to about 190 degrees in a pie pan, sprinkle it with a little powdered graphite, then rub it with a cake of wax. Turn it over and repeat. Works fine, I don't have to deal with a pot of hot wax, and the most time-consuming part is waiting for the oven to come up to temperature. |
I bought a 1.5 Quart on Amazon for $14. I also bought a small round deep fryer basket/strainer that fits nicely into the slow cooker.
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IMO I prefer a bigger crock pot over the very small one...I have one of each now...the larger one allows for easier 'swishing' of the chain in the oil bath while the smaller one did not.
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I bought a small Crock Pot at my local GoodWill store. 2, 8oz blocks of wax exactly fit. So exact in fact that the chain displacement would cause an overflow. I stopped dropping in the chain, gave the wax pot a good stir and used a small Tupperware to remove about 4oz of wax.
1qt (16oz) is teetering on the edge of too small. It also requires a bit of care to get an entire chain to fit since the links are only flexible in one direction. A 1.5 quart is probably a better size. I checked with a cooking thermometer. Mine holds at ~220 degrees farenheit. I don't know if that is good or bad. But it makes sense that it could be good to in the rare case a chain might have some moisture in/on it. |
I've read somewhere that if you overheat the wax it will change it slightly and 92C (198 F) is around the ideal temperature.
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
(Post 23122219)
I've read somewhere that if you overheat the wax it will change it slightly and 92C (198 F) is around the ideal temperature.
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Originally Posted by Aardwolf
(Post 23122219)
I've read somewhere that if you overheat the wax it will change it slightly and 92C (198 F) is around the ideal temperature.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 23122227)
Not at temperature or conditions you can get to in a crockpot. Paraffin is distilled from petroleum at 170°C to 310°C (338°F to 590°F). It has a flash point of of 200°C (390°F). It is also very stable chemically and doesn’t react with much of anything in the absence of some exotic catalysts.
I was going from stuff like this . According to Molten Speed Wax, the temperature of the wax should not exceed 93 .degrees celsius / 200 degree fahrenheit, both for safety and performance reasons. From https://www.bikeradar.com/advice/wor...to-wax-a-chain That could well be something particular to Speed Wax, or just complete b*ll*cks. Looks like there's some concern about too much paraffin vapour as that's flamable. |
Ah, carp. Everything was fine before I knew. Now that I know, Imma hafta install a resistor in line to voltage drop a bit so it equalizes at a better temp. Oh, the pains of living in the first world.
This should be fun. |
Originally Posted by base2
(Post 23122265)
Ah, carp. Everything was fine before I knew. Now that I know, Imma hafta install a resistor in line to voltage drop a bit so it equalizes at a better temp.
This should be fun. That would suggest 212F is fine That might be an issue if you do it on a gas cooker though - paraffin vapour.. |
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