New to me 86 Schwinn Voyageur.
Mostly completely original with chrome under the paint. Missing only the correct bars and brake levers. Best part is the bike was 50.00!
also, its my size. I need this like a hole in the head but i couldnt pass it up. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e2e5bc816f.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0bdc21e9d6.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...944df89904.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...970bc8bc78.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...862a516dac.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f811ac4872.jpg Chrome under paint. |
This is a cool bike esp. at $50. This is my $50 1982 Trek 720 as found in the wild:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...56095e02af.jpg This is that bike today: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...724a9faa9b.jpg |
Nice score! Those are very nice riders, I quickly fell in love with one of those that I picked up last year. Good job not passing it up at that price. Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by cb400bill
(Post 21344460)
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Yes indeed! As Bill said, welcome to the '86'er club! I just added an '88 to the stable also (Emerald Green).
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3f2e6c4886.jpg |
Originally Posted by UKFan4Sure
(Post 21344515)
Yes indeed! As Bill said, welcome to the '86'er club! I just added an '88 to the stable also (Emerald Green).
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3f2e6c4886.jpg |
You can run 700c wheels on an old touring bike built around 27 inch wheels but it does present some issues. (1) Typically the posts on vintage bikes are closer together than is true for modern bikes. That means that many modern cantilevers are likely not to work. I know that the Tektro CR720, a really fine cantilever, didn't work on one of my older bikes. So you're likely better off sticking with older cantis. (2) The other problem is whether the canti has the adjustability needed to drop down 4 mm. Some do, a lot don't. There is some trial and error here. I don't have any experience with this but there are threads where people have had success using shimano br mt60 to do this kind of conversion.
VeloBase.com - Component: Shimano BR-MT60, Deore |
Great find, 52! I love my Voyageur despite it being too small. I'm installing Albatross bars to make it more comfortable. I notice that the Columbus Tenax bikes are 2 pounds lighter in the catalogue than my '90 Tange frame bike. I wonder why.
See here: https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e579e6c430.jpg |
Originally Posted by bikemig
(Post 21344887)
You can run 700c wheels on an old touring bike built around 27 inch wheels but it does present some issues. (1) Typically the posts on vintage bikes are closer together than is true for modern bikes. That means that many modern cantilevers are likely not to work. I know that the Tektro CR720, a really fine cantilever, didn't work on one of my older bikes. So you're likely better off sticking with older cantis. (2) The other problem is whether the canti has the adjustability needed to drop down 4 mm. Some do, a lot don't. There is some trial and error here. I don't have any experience with this but there are threads where people have had success using shimano br mt60 to do this kind of conversion.
VeloBase.com - Component: Shimano BR-MT60, Deore the thing is, i now have a 98 volpe in my size, this bike and my bob jackson world tourist. I remember jonesing after a cantilever brake touring bike when i was 30 and knowing i would never have one. Now i kind of have too many. First world issues. |
Originally Posted by 52telecaster
(Post 21344959)
after looking at this in the light of day, it has plenty of room with the 27s so i might just stay with them. I just dont want to build a dynamo wheel for it. However i do have a bottom bracket dynamo i could use. Eventually i will probable put better bars on with barends.
the thing is, i now have a 98 volpe in my size, this bike and my bob jackson world tourist. I remember jonesing after a cantilever brake touring bike when i was 30 and knowing i would never have one. Now i kind of have too many. First world issues. I wanted a Reynolds 531 or a Columbus tubing bike when I was in high school but I sure as heck couldn't afford one. Now I have a bunch of them, :). Definitely first world problem. |
Originally Posted by UKFan4Sure
(Post 21345732)
Really? 36mm out of a 1-1/4? Wow.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
(Post 21345735)
You're kidding right? That's what it measures using my calipers. You can do the math if you don't like metric measurements.
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Originally Posted by UKFan4Sure
(Post 21345771)
OK... 1.25 inches times 25.4 equals 31.75 mm. I still say 36mm is kinda big for a 1.25 tire. So, no I kid not. Like I said, my Schwalbe 1-1/4 are 31.5mm according to my digital calipers at 80psi.
Tires don't always measure out to what they are marked on the sidewall. The michelin proteks run considerably wider on my rims than they are marked. I like them for that reason. |
After changing the freewheel to a better gear selection for half step... 14,17,20,24,28 i also changed the chainrings for loaded touring with an old body... 24,40,44.
i had an old set of fenders an a subietz bottom bracket generator plus a Blackburn style front rack. It got me to the bike shop in style, where i picked up some vo porteur bars. They go on next as well as an old brooks. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6db85c0ab9.jpg at bushwhacker. |
Originally Posted by UKFan4Sure
(Post 21345789)
OK, so why not say that in the first place instead of telling me I can do the math? Geeze.
It's tough finding a fat 27 inch tire with a wire bead that will work with a hookless rim and a lot of older 27 inch rims lack a hooked sidewall. |
Originally Posted by bikemig
(Post 21345780)
You're kidding right? The math is obvious.
Tires don't always measure out to what they are marked on the sidewall. The michelin proteks run considerably wider on my rims than they are marked. I like them for that reason. |
Originally Posted by UKFan4Sure
(Post 21345815)
And yes, I agree. I've had all kinds of weird measurements on tire width claims, some wider (Continental always running wider), and some smaller (Kenda, for example). I still think 36 on a 1-1/4 surprises me. That's quite a bit off, even for a Conti. But OK, if you say so. It will be one for me to consider in the future with that knowledge.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
(Post 21345806)
Because that is what I said in my first post. I said they measured 36 mm on my rims.
It's tough finding a fat 27 inch tire with a wire bead that will work with a hookless rim and a lot of older 27 inch rims lack a hooked sidewall. |
Back to the topic of brakes. I’ve been able to switch between the stock 27” wheels and 700c wheels with no problem on my 87 Tenax Voyageur. The original equipment brakes will adjust down just enough to avoid rubbing the tires.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
(Post 21345804)
After changing the freewheel to a better gear selection for half step... 14,17,20,24,28 i also changed the chainrings for loaded touring with an old body... 24,40,44.
i had an old set of fenders an a subietz bottom bracket generator plus a Blackburn style front rack. It got me to the bike shop in style, where i picked up some vo porteur bars. They go on next as well as an old brooks. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6db85c0ab9.jpg at bushwhacker. You're going to love the Voyageur. Such a nice frame! I can't wait to see how you fix it up! I noted that quill stem looks like she's up past her limit by quite a bit? Maybe not if it's not the original. You might want to check it and make sure. |
Originally Posted by Whit51
(Post 21345825)
Back to the topic of brakes. I’ve been able to switch between the stock 27” wheels and 700c wheels with no problem on my 87 Tenax Voyageur. The original equipment brakes will adjust down just enough to avoid rubbing the tires.
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Originally Posted by UKFan4Sure
(Post 21345829)
I'm running 46/36/24 up front with a large 30 in the rear on mine. It gives this tired old 58 year old body a break climbing up those hills. Besides, I've never met a hill I couldn't walk! haha!
You're going to love the Voyageur. Such a nice frame! I can't wait to see how you fix it up! I noted that quill stem looks like she's up past her limit by quite a bit? Maybe not if it's not the original. You might want to check it and make sure. |
Originally Posted by 52telecaster
(Post 21344329)
Mostly completely original with chrome under the paint. Missing only the correct bars and brake levers. Best part is the bike was 50.00!
also, its my size. I need this like a hole in the head but i couldnt pass it up. For fun and excitement and those playing along with copies of the home game- stronglight 's EXCELLENT Flickr album details this bike: https://www.flickr.com/photos/strong...57605576341958
Originally Posted by UKFan4Sure
(Post 21344515)
Yes indeed! As Bill said, welcome to the '86'er club! I just added an '88 to the stable also (Emerald Green).
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3f2e6c4886.jpg
Originally Posted by bikemig
(Post 21344887)
You can run 700c wheels on an old touring bike built around 27 inch wheels but it does present some issues. (1) Typically the posts on vintage bikes are closer together than is true for modern bikes. That means that many modern cantilevers are likely not to work. I know that the Tektro CR720, a really fine cantilever, didn't work on one of my older bikes. So you're likely better off sticking with older cantis. (2) The other problem is whether the canti has the adjustability needed to drop down 4 mm. Some do, a lot don't. There is some trial and error here. I don't have any experience with this but there are threads where people have had success using shimano br mt60 to do this kind of conversion.
Originally Posted by 52telecaster
(Post 21344959)
after looking at this in the light of day, it has plenty of room with the 27s so i might just stay with them.
the thing is, i now have a 98 volpe in my size, this bike and my bob jackson world tourist. I remember jonesing after a cantilever brake touring bike when i was 30 and knowing i would never have one. Now i kind of have too many. First world issues. When I was getting into this bike hobby- I saw people posting all these beautiful bikes, and I saw people posting about SCORING these beautiful bikes... I just had my same bike that I'd had since 1987 and I wanted something more glamorous- less utilitarian... and I NEVER saw that kind of bike for sale around me... or I'd JUST miss it. I loved it when people would do all the super cool detailed photo essays in threads. One day I chased down one of those super cool bikes... and then they were just *there.* I try to take pix that I think I would have liked seeing before I got these bikes. |
Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
(Post 21345925)
Are you sure that's an 88? That looks very 86 "British Pine"-y rather than the Emerald Green. The British Pine is more flat and the Emerald Green has more of a lustre to it. Although it doesn't mean much- your FD looks a lot like a Z-206 and the crank looks more like the FC-124 than an MT-60. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b98c74d640.jpg |
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