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Dschmale 03-04-19 09:46 PM

How excited is everyone for daylight saving time?
 
How excited is everyone here for daylight savings time? My commute is down right dangerous on some dark mornings if it’s been windy or raining. Lots of downed limbs and debris that litter the trail or get tossed into the bike lanes and shoulders. Should be interesting. I’ve never commuted on a road bike before, where my mountain and BMX bikes could soak that stuff up. Fortunately I picked up a nicer headlight recently! 5am commutes should get that much more interesting this time of year.

Be safe out there.

Darth Lefty 03-04-19 09:53 PM

I kind of like riding in the cool dark, but my route is not in traffic

JoeyBike 03-04-19 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by Dschmale (Post 20823024)
How excited is everyone here for daylight savings time?


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wolfchild 03-05-19 04:07 AM

DST should be abolished. It's just a useless tradition which has no purpose. ..All it does is disrupt peoples circadian rhythm and mess up their sleeping patterns.

acidfast7 03-05-19 04:23 AM

We're (EU) is thankfully getting rid of that bull**** and we're more north than you guys.

rumrunn6 03-05-19 04:55 AM

When I bike commuted I distinctly remember being a little sad not to ride in the dark anymore. I invested so much time effort and money into dark visibility but also cuz it was fun!

Nowadays any any sign of spring is welcome

Jim from Boston 03-05-19 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 20823274)
When I bike commuted I distinctly remember being a little sad not to ride in the dark anymore. I invested so much time effort and money into dark visibility but also cuz it was fun!

Nowadays any any sign of spring is welcome


I'm also a fan of riding in the dark early AM

Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 18597775)
…One of the enjoyments of Winter cycling is the extended period of darkness of the morning to ride. One benefit of riding in the dark is that if it’s gloomy weather, you don’t notice it

Originally Posted by banerjek (Post 18597061)
…I think it's safe enough, but car headlights make it hard to see things…

But on clear nights, it's a blast -- I always had the sensation that everything was all mine. Rural roads in the dark, particularly with a bit of moonlight assist is awesome.

Last autumn, when I stayed overnight at my job at a suburban site, I tried some very early morning riding and had the same problem about oncoming car lights.

In the city there is enough ambient light to keep my pupils constricted, but on the very dark suburban/exurban roads I become very dark-adapted and oncoming lights are blinding. But I too enjoy that sensation that everything is mine, and I’m in my own world. I calI it “cocooning.”

Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 18597753)
I have done a lot of night riding over the years. Often, the roads and paths are very quiet, and on country roads, I find myself in a cocoon or tunnel of light and my imagination can run wild



bobwysiwyg 03-05-19 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 20823250)
DST should be abolished. It's just a useless tradition which has no purpose. ..All it does is disrupt peoples circadian rhythm and mess up their sleeping patterns.

This...but then I'm retired and not getting kids off to school in the dark.

mcours2006 03-05-19 06:29 AM

I spent the last two months toiling in the dark at 6AM. Just recently it's been light out for the last half hour of my commute, which feels great. Now I gotta go back to the dark ages!:mad:

Not excited at all. But looking forward to what it means it terms of the weather.

acidfast7 03-05-19 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 20823250)
DST should be abolished. It's just a useless tradition which has no purpose. ..All it does is disrupt peoples circadian rhythm and mess up their sleeping patterns.

It will be abolished in the EU.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...ive-639_en.pdf

As early as 2019, but most likely in 2021.


This Directive should apply from 1 April 2019, so that the last summer-time period subject to the rules of Directive 2000/84/EC should start, in every Member State, at 1.00 a.m., Coordinated Universal Time, on 31 March 2019. Member States that, after that summer-time period, intend to adopt a standard time corresponding to the time applied during the winter season in accordance with Directive 2000/84/EC should change their standard time at 1.00 a.m., Coordinated Universal Time, on 27 October 2019, so that similar and lasting changes occurring in different Member States take place simultaneously. It is desirable that Member States take the decisions on the standard time that each of them will apply as from 2019 in a concerted manner.
Good riddance!

Lemond1985 03-05-19 07:11 AM

NOT excited. More like Furious that we still have to deal with this BS in the modern era.

"Simon says ... turn your clocks forward an hour."

F.U. :(

rayooo 03-05-19 07:21 AM

Spring is coming! :)

BobbyG 03-05-19 07:37 AM

Sometimes I feel safer in the dark...

Hoopdriver 03-05-19 07:47 AM

I have hated the periodic time change for decades. I go through a weeks-long period of feeling messed up with every change. In the Fall of 2017, I decided to modify my work schedule to split the difference, offsetting my schedule by only 30 minutes, reverting back 30 minutes the following Spring. I have to say that it worked rather well; however I would prefer that we just pick standard or daylight time and stick with it all year long. Is anyone euphoric about the time change? I expect that it is more tolerated than appreciated.

My biggest commuting issue with the time change was having to endure the twilight periods twice as much. During these period of low light, as many as one third of local motorists would not run lights on their vehicles making them very difficult to see. Moreover, the lights of prudent motorists would "hide" these stealth runners making it almost impossible to gauge traffic while riding. Definitely scary. Having made it through that sketchy period once, only having to go through it once more when the time changed was discouraging.

parkbrav 03-05-19 07:54 AM

I personally have a mixed feeling but am mostly positive to Daylight Savings. The hour early shocks my system. I have been trying to acclimate to the expected time change for about two weeks now.

But I LOVE the extra day light right out the door in the PM. It means to me that the chances of surviving my commute go up, up, up. Plus it means I can do more exercise (run, go to the gym) and still finish before it gets dark

It does get darker in the AM, at least at the outset. But it does eventually get brighter out in the am.

So partly it's an appreciation of extra day light in the PM, and partly it's a huge "milestone" that is also a harbinger of spring

OhLylo 03-05-19 08:25 AM

Bleh. I hate DST. It messes up my sleep cycle, and I prefer the dark morning commute as my times square lighting/reflector setup is much more visible in the dark. I'm happy for spring, because I'm tired of being cold, but we really should just make up our minds about this clock changing business one way or the other and leave it that way.

alan s 03-05-19 08:56 AM

On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being could care less, and 10 being couldn’t care less, it’s a 3.

rhm 03-05-19 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 20823250)
DST should be abolished. It's just a useless tradition which has no purpose. ..All it does is disrupt peoples circadian rhythm and mess up their sleeping patterns.

+1

That said, I do prefer DST over Standard. In Standard time I end up riding in evening twilight, and I prefer either light or dark.

parkbrav 03-05-19 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by acidfast7 (Post 20823333)
It will be abolished in the EU.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...ive-639_en.pdf

As early as 2019, but most likely in 2021.



Good riddance!

What is the EU permanently adopting, standard time or daylight savings time?

acidfast7 03-05-19 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by parkbrav (Post 20823692)
What is the EU permanently adopting, standard time or daylight savings time?

I think a "no change" approach. The savings time is the adapted version, so I assume that will be dropped.

DiabloScott 03-05-19 11:05 AM

DST is the best thing ever invented. I love changing back and forth. I love not being a grump who complains about this twice a year. It's hardly different than changing time zones on an airplane trip.

FlMTNdude 03-05-19 11:19 AM

I hate it. And it will make the morning commute less safe. Right now I am just getting a glimpse of the predawn light. It will go back to dark once the time changes. I work 7-3:30 so am leaving the house at 6:15. I really have to question any real “savings”.

Steely Dan 03-05-19 11:31 AM

DST is probably my favorite thing in the world!

i love it so much i wish chicago would just stay on it year round and ditch central standard time altogether.


full disclosure: my work schedule is such that i leave home at 7:50am every morning, so i always have plenty of daylight for the ride in, even on the winter solstice.

it's at the end of my workday (5:30pm) where i really appreciate the extra daylight that the DST switch brings.

Darth Lefty 03-05-19 11:35 AM

Just think how easy we have it:


Legendary 10-month calendarEdit

The Romans themselves described their first organized year as one with ten fixed months, each of 30 or 31 days.[2][3] Such a decimal division fitted general Roman practice.[4] The four 31-day months were called "full" (pleni) and the others "hollow" (cavi).[a][6] Its 304 days made up exactly 38 nundinal cycles. The system is usually said to have left the remaining 50-odd days of the year as an unorganized "winter", although Licinius Macer's lost history apparently stated the earliest Roman calendar employed intercalation instead[7][8] and Macrobius claims the 10-month calendar was allowed to shift until the summer and winter months were completely misplaced, at which time additional days belonging to no month were simply inserted into the calendar until it seemed things were restored to their proper place.[9][10]


phtomita 03-05-19 11:40 AM

I prefer dark on morning than when going home :)


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