Lynskey or Other Ti Frame...Last Bike
 

I turn 55 in a few months and looking for my “Last Bike.” I’m considering Titanium mostly because of its durability, not so much because of any performance reasons.

One of the manufacturers that caught my eye is Lynksey. These look like very nicely built bikes, and the prices seem very reasonable. When you go to their site and build a bike, it shows “50% savings” or similar, which at first, I thought was a marketing thing but after looking at other Ti bikes I am beginning to believe it.
The R265 base price at $2,137, I’d probably upgrade a couple of things but still under $3,000 seems like a really nice deal https://lynskeyperformance.com/2017-r265-complete/

So a few questions (I have a bunch, my mind is sorta racing a little…), feel free to answer as many as you wish, or just give your general thoughts. I appreciate it:
What do you think about Ti frames? I’ve never ridden one; Are they that much different than my carbon and steel bikes to the point that I might not like it?

What do you think about buying a bike without test riding? I have the specs/measurements of one of my bikes that fits me perfectly, is this enough info to understand how well a Lynksey or other frame will fit?

What do you think about Lynksey as a manufacturer? About their 50% off sale?

About me if you’re still listening:
I have 3 bikes (listed under my avatar), all of which I ride. I don’t really feel like the frame material of them makes such a huge difference, probably because I don’t push the envelope when I ride. I ride almost all rolling hill country roads north of Austin TX, and every other year or so I ride the mountains in Colorado (Vail Pass, etc. sort of a challenge and test to make sure I’m not too old yet). Average speed ~ 18mph/29kph around home. I am much more interested IF I will be riding at age 65 vs. how fast I ride at 55. Usually I ride alone but sometimes with others, so I don’t want a slow bike, but I like to relax when I ride so I don’t want a race bike.

TIA for any info / insight you have!

I have 2 Ti steeds. One for paved roads, and one for unpaved roads. Both put a dumb grin on my face when I ride them. Geometry can be a tricky thing, both my Ti Bikes were bought unridden...my Seven full bespoke custom, and my Carver off the rack. If you know the geometry you have, and what you want, you can make educated assumptions about how well you can make a fit work. There are several bike geo calculators out there to compare bikes.

You want Ti, do it.

Lynskey will do fine. My Carver is OEM'd by them.

Bike longevity and the "last bike" notion are just BS IMO. Buy the bike you like the best. Lynskey is certainly a good candidate. But so what if you got carbon fiber and it didn't "last". You'd have an excuse to buy another one. I'm pushing 70 and don't need any more bikes, but I wouldn't be upset if I did. Building new bikes is the most fun I have in cycling.

I love my custom Engin ti. Before I got it I had only ridden steel and aluminum frames. I have no regrets about dropping the coin I did. (The frame alone was more than the upgraded Lynskey you are eying.)

“Last Bike.”


You're only 55!


I hope you live to get 10 more "last bikes"

Yep.

Is there any proof that Ti is more durable than other materials used for bikes?

I have never ridden Ti .... and I also have said many times, the design, not the frame material, makes the ride.

Everyone I have ever listened to said Ti is a lot like steel but more forgiving, gentler, a little more flexible (within design limits.) Everyone I have ever heard whom I trust called it the most comfortable ....

Lynskey is a well-known brand with a long history of building solid bikes and standing behind them. I don't think you could go wrong buying one of their bikes if you bought the right one for you.

If I had the money I'd buy a Ti bike ... and couple others ... but then ...I am only a Little older than you, not as old as that geezer Rpenmanparker.

I can see getting a "last bike." I am at a point now where I won't buy any more bikes because I have as many as I can ride. After I retire (should that ever happen, given the economy and the government) and I can ride more, I might get a dedicated gravel bike, dedicated touring bike, and a Ti road bike ... or whatever. But “Last Bike”?

Yeah, you can tell yourself that ....I usually only try to tell that whopper to my wife.

I have owned a number of Lynskey's, and loved all of them. The R240 (or 250? not sure what they are up to now) is an amazing bike with fantastic geometry. Really hard to go wrong with them, and they are far less than most other ti options.

Do you care?

I appreciate all the feedback...and so quickly!! ;)

What I learned so far:
People who have Ti bikes seem to really like them. But I suppose the same could be said about carbon, bamboo, steel, etc.
Lynskey is a well respected manufacturer
The Lynskey sale seems to be a legit reduction in prices. I wasn't considering Ti due to the prices, but this Lynskey "sale" changes things
This will not be my last bike ;)

btw: I Instant Messaged Lynskey and the guy was very helpful, answered my questions.

Thanks y'all, I'm still listening.

Yes it matters. Why would I buy a bike that will only last fifty years longer than I will, If I can buy a bike which will last seventy years longer? :)

Resale value, obviously.

I've ridden a custom Lynskey gravel bike on both gravel and rough paved roads for the last two years. I put about 5,000 miles a year on it. It's a great bike. Beautiful craftsmanship. Excellent design. I can't call it my "last bike" because I've purchased a carbon road racing bike in the interim, but it IS the bike that I will probably keep for the rest of my life. There's no reason to ever sell it. If Lynskey could make a bike as light as my BMC SLR-01, I would buy it . . . and probably never buy another bike.

Lynskey is excellent to work with. I did have one online rep that was a bad apple (and he's still with the company) but, in general, their sales, design, and engineering people act as if you're the most important customer they've ever worked with. (I'm less than 90 minutes away from the factory, so I picked mine up in person. The head of sales actually helped me load the bike into my car.) Quality people. Quality product.

I forgot to mention that my Merlin Works CR Ti frame is the best bike frame I have ever owned. Better than steel, CF, and Al that I either have had or still have.

In the group I ride with, most aged over 50, 7+ riders have gone from nice carbon to ti in the past 2 years. About that many were already on ti and several of us went to ti from steel. Moots, Lynskey and Seven are the most popular, in that order. If you like a steel bike, don't expect an epiphany with ti, but there is a different ride quality and of course the weight. I won't pretend to understand metallurgy, but I've read that ti construction benefits from a more industrial process with strict tolerances as opposed to the boutique small operation where one guy has a "feel" for what he's doing. I don't think a ti manufacturer exists with more experience than Lynskey. You probably know they were making ti products for the aerospace and chemical industries prior to starting Litespeed so many years ago. I can't explain their pricing, seems like the frames are almost always on "sale." They are a family business and I've heard they try to keep production at a level that will allow them to keep their employees employed. Buy American, right?:thumb: Regarding buying a bike without riding it, I think concerns about a "test ride" diminish as one becomes a more experienced cyclist. Understand your fit and the numbers, it's not magic. My experience with buying a frame directly from Lynskey was excellent. Others have bought complete bikes and were happy with that process as well. My friends who have bought Moots go through a local shop and I'm not aware of any problems there, either. A final point is that there is a strong market for used ti if you find it doesn't suit you. Few of the concerns with buying used carbon apply so the bikes retain a higher value. I can't see a reason not to try ti if it interests you.

All well said.

I had a R265. I'll chime in tonight when I get to a computer.

You can't go wrong with Lynskey. They're very high quality. But be sure you get a bike that is comfortable. I have a Lemond Ti frame, and it is a nimble road racing frame. It's not ideal for me because it's a little too small for me, and the biggest tires I can fit are 25mm wide. I'm not sure I'll enjoy taking it on a long ride, but I haven't tried it yet. I think it would be less fatiguing to ride 32mm tires which I have on other bikes of mine (made of steel). The light weight is a terribly nice thing, though, and it's also nice that being made of metal, it's not likely to shatter on impact. I didn't pay much for the frame, as I got it used, so I'm not complaining.

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That's the common excuse for the wife. It really works!! :thumb:

I bought my Lynskey frame from Adrenalinebikes.com in Orange County, CA. The Peloton frame was a little under $1100 and I called Lynskey to ask if they could match/beat that price. When I called, David Lynskey answered the phone and told me that the price from Adrenaline was a great deal and he could not match it. Had a lengthy conversation with him about the build. Great customer service. Attachment 576480

I just bought my first Titanium frame after having owned Aluminum and carbon bikes. I bought a Helix Sport frame from Lynskey and built it up the way I wanted. I understood the geometry enough to be able to know which size bike was best for me, but also discussed at length with Lynskey. At the end of the day, this is the first bike that I build instead of buying off a rack. I don't know that the ride is way better or worse than other materials, I think they all serve a purpose; however, I can tell you that no other bike has made me this happy to ride. Whether it be because of ride quality, cosmetic appeal, or the fact that I selected every component on there....I personally think it's the bees knees.

Of coarse I do.
I am only 51 so my "last bike" will need to do a few miles:)

Not if you keep buying bikes. See how that works?

Titanium .... Nah ...

it's your last bike? ..... get a Canyon Aeroad with Di2, good wheels and hydraulic disk brakes ... you are getting old and you need all the help that can get to go faster