a good idea..
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You think it is a good idea to let bigfoots own pets?
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
(Post 20979062)
You think it is a good idea to let bigfoots own pets?
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Actual crosswalks painted on roads would be a better idea.
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Originally Posted by tyrion
(Post 20979208)
Actual crosswalks painted on roads would be a better idea.
Count the painted crosswalks. (Count the miles of roads without paint. Count the miles of roads with centerlines, curblines, anylines.) Are we really dumbing down the rules of the road where nobody can figure out what to do without paint? -mr. bill |
Originally Posted by mr_bill
(Post 20979290)
Are we really dumbing down the rules of the road where nobody can figure out what to do without paint?
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Originally Posted by tyrion
(Post 20979506)
No, it's always been that way. Signs decrease confusion, if properly designed.
Properly designed, should such a sign be at every painted crosswalk, or every unpainted crosswalk, or both? -mr. bill |
Originally Posted by mr_bill
(Post 20979523)
“Yield to pedestrians in crosswalk”
Properly designed, should such a sign be at every painted crosswalk, or every unpainted crosswalk, or both? -mr. bill |
Originally Posted by tyrion
(Post 20979530)
I don't know, I'm not a traffic sign designer.
-mr. bill |
Originally Posted by mr_bill
(Post 20979533)
But you are a crosswalk painter designer?
-mr. bill |
Originally Posted by mr_bill
(Post 20979523)
“Yield to pedestrians in crosswalk”
Properly designed, should such a sign be at every painted crosswalk, or every unpainted crosswalk, or both? -mr. bill |
I don't see the need for signs like "Every intersection is a crosswalk". With a few exceptions, such as "Traffic need to yield to pedestrians in crosswalk", pedestrians need to yield to traffic that is not under signage or signal control.
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That sign is an accurate statement of Oregon law. Unless there is a traffic light, the pedestrian always has the ROW at an intersection.
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Originally Posted by mr_bill
(Post 20979290)
Count the actual crosswalks.
Count the painted crosswalks. (Count the miles of roads without paint. Count the miles of roads with centerlines, curblines, anylines.) Are we really dumbing down the rules of the road where nobody can figure out what to do without paint? -mr. bill Why we're discussing this sign on a cycling forum is another matter. |
That people are bickering over it, though is the pure essence of A&S on BF.
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LOL ..... I've been here twice.
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For every supposed fan of anarchy .... give it a shot.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
(Post 20979989)
That sign is an accurate statement of Oregon law. Unless there is a traffic light, the pedestrian always has the ROW at an intersection.
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Here , US 30 splits into 2_2 lane one ways through town and that , a 4 lane highway
is a half block from my house.. Californians need the law clearly stated.. |
Intersections are designed for motor vehicles, and although designs for safe crosswalks can be integrated, they don't reliably manage the hazards of turning vehicles. Left turning motorists are focused mainly on on-coming traffic, while right turning motorists are often looking the wrong way. Mid-block signaled intersections are a solution to this. Eliminating the right-on-red laws would be another step in the right direction.
A quick glance at available stats show Oregon have reduced pedestrian fatalities in recent years so perhaps the signs had something to do with it. |
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