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Bonzo Banana 03-11-18 01:04 PM

Nexus 7 folding bike 213 today only (UK only)
 
https://www.sportsdirect.com/muddyfo...lcode=93304130

Great price for a Nexus 7 folding bike for those in the UK and possibly other parts of Europe with an increased postage cost.

You need to use the app and 'APP20' code.

A lot of bike for little money.

Even cheaper if you buy a cashback site like topcashback to buy discounted giftcards from Zeek and use a discount code on the Zeek site. Could go well under 200 as final price.

tds101 03-11-18 09:07 PM

I tried to order it (im in the USA, and they deliver to my location), the code didn't work. Too bad,...looks like a great deal for those that can get it.

Bonzo Banana 03-12-18 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by tds101 (Post 20217428)
I tried to order it (im in the USA, and they deliver to my location), the code didn't work. Too bad,...looks like a great deal for those that can get it.

I think postage would have been prohibitive and you would have been hit by custom's duty as well. It only made sense for people in the UK and in Europe. You had to use the app for the code to work.

tds101 03-12-18 02:23 AM


Originally Posted by Bonzo Banana (Post 20217657)
I think postage would have been prohibitive and you would have been hit by custom's duty as well. It only made sense for people in the UK and in Europe. You had to use the app for the code to work.

Wrong. I hit the link and was sent to the USA site, and shipping was $.99. I believe it's $380usd, and that's still a good price.

Schwinnsta 03-12-18 07:16 AM

Code FW20 in USA

tds101 03-12-18 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Schwinnsta (Post 20217883)
Code FW20 in USA

That code is for footwear,...it's useless for the bike. It doesn't work,...

Bonzo Banana 03-12-18 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by tds101 (Post 20217667)
Wrong. I hit the link and was sent to the USA site, and shipping was $.99. I believe it's $380usd, and that's still a good price.

Fair point. I didn't even realise sports direct were in the USA. I can see they have a limited selection of bikes but the Nexus 7 folding bike is there.

Look out for the discount offer being available for app users in the USA I suppose if the current code doesn't work in the USA. It's been extended 1 day I think.

tds101 03-13-18 06:25 AM

Man,...there's no in app discount. But, for $390.99 shipped and delivered, it's still a dawg gone great deal.

Bonzo Banana 03-13-18 07:52 AM

This is pretty much the same bike (identical frame);

Carrera Transit Folding Bike

It's just the muddyfox bike has a 7 speed nexus instead of 3 speed and has stronger wheels with 36 spokes and I believe a higher rider weight capacity but that's really the main differences.

tds101 03-13-18 06:12 PM

Are the wheels single or double wall? That's a deciding factor for me,...

Bonzo Banana 03-14-18 03:18 AM

I'm not sure but in that other thread 'Snoopy20' said the wheels were bullet proof but then I think he changed the front hub to something else but kept the rims. As soon as he got it he started upgrading it and I think claimed got it down to a 10kg weight after the upgrades (which is pretty amazing with a Nexus hub).

tds101 03-14-18 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Bonzo Banana (Post 20221986)
I'm not sure but in that other thread 'Snoopy 20' said the wheels were bullet proof but then I think he changed the front hub to something else but kept the rims. As soon as he got it he started upgrading it and I think claimed got it down to a 10kg weight after the upgrades (which is pretty amazing with a Nexus hub).

I'm going to see if @snoopy20 can give me an answer. If they are double wall I'm probably making a purchase of 1 myself.

THANKS!!! :thumb:

gdlerner 03-15-18 03:28 PM

Any one know what is the weight of the bike?

Bonzo Banana 03-16-18 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by gdlerner (Post 20225546)
Any one know what is the weight of the bike?

In the region of 12-13kg probably closer to 13kg. Some parts could be removed if you didn't need them like the kickstand but most of the parts are aluminium alloy including seat post, handlebars and handlebar stem. Many of the cheaper steel based 20" folders are around 15-16kg. The Shimano Nexus hub does add some weight compared to a basic derailleur system especially one freewheel based.

gdlerner 03-18-18 01:00 PM

I just ordered one de will see

Bonzo Banana 03-18-18 05:28 PM

This is the basic spec.

Alloy Folding Bike Frame

> Alloy Rigid Front Forks

> Alloy Handlebars

> Alloy Telescopic Folding Handlebar Stem

> 7 Speed ​​Shimano Nexus in-hub gears with Shimano Nexus Revoshift Shifter

> Prowheel Chainset - 46T

> Promax Front and Rear Alloy V-Brakes

> 20 " Alloy Wheels - Front Quick Release

> Alloy Pannier Rack

> Alloy Kickstand

> Front & Rear Mudguards

> Saddle with Bumpers

> Recommended for inside leg measurement 29-35 inches

> Recommended age:from 12 years old

> Total weight: About 13 kg

Worth double checking assembly before use. It's a pretty decent bike but assembly from the factory can be less than stellar.

Bonzo Banana 03-19-18 07:48 AM

I can confirm that the only steel on the bike is the spokes, headset, front chain ring (not crank arms), saddle mounting and saddle railings, rear cog and chain.

Frame welds are excellent, japanese made nexus hub, single wall wheels (look pretty generic quality but the 36 spokes and small size should ensure they are strong), feels very strong and decent but the frame has a sticker stating bike+rider+luggage=105kg so we are talking about a rider weight limit of 90 or so kg officially. I don't feel the weight limit is dictated by the frame and certainly not the Nexus hub so would feel more likely limited by the basic wheel quality or possibly aluminium forks, stem, handlebars or seat post.

I think it would happily take a 100kg rider to be honest. Unfortunately I can't ride it currently so it's going to have to wait until I lose more weight. I'll have to stick to my mountain bikes for the moment.

Comparing this bike to a Dahon Vybe I saw in Halfords sometime ago the frame here looks much better quality than the Dahon however the Dahon I seem to remember had double wall wheels plus the Dahon had possibly stronger high tensile steel forks rather than the lightweight aluminium forks of this bike. So these 2 differences while adding weight may make the Dahon stronger.

The Carrera Transit sold in Halfords has a weight limit of 85kg for the rider and that is pretty much an identical bike except a 3 speed hub gear rather than 7 speed. I guess that 85kg weight limit is pretty much the official line here. Allowing for the bike weighing 12-13kg and some amount of luggage capacity.

Bike looks and feels very decent quality. A real step up from entry level and probably competitive in quality of components with hub geared Dahon and Tern bikes. However I suspect I will need to examine and re-assemble it to make sure everything is spot on. For the moment though its going to get folded up and stored unfortunately I hope to be riding it by the summer.

gdlerner 03-19-18 10:15 AM

For me will be ok I am light only 70kg

Bonzo Banana 03-20-18 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by gdlerner (Post 20232319)
For me will be ok I am light only 70kg

Don't forget to tell us how you get on with it.

I'm not keen on the twist shifter on mine. That and the saddle are the only things I'm thinking of changing. It's going to cost me about 20 to change the shifter to a rapid shifter and I'm thinking about it. As I won't be riding it for a while I may play the waiting game for an offer. Tried to find one of the cheaper microshift nexus shifters but no luck on sourcing one of those at a more competitive price.

I really like the bike I have to say.

tds101 03-20-18 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by gdlerner (Post 20232319)
For me will be ok I am light only 70kg

70kg? Grab this bike,...you should get tons of enjoyment from riding it. And please, do tell us about your thoughts on it.

slowwheeler 03-21-18 03:43 AM

Having been mulling over folding bikes for a little while, I also bought one of these when the offer appeared.

I've just opened the box, interestingly, the frame sticker on my one says 115Kg...

Bonzo Banana 03-21-18 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by slowwheeler (Post 20236197)
Having been mulling over folding bikes for a little while, I also bought one of these when the offer appeared.

I've just opened the box, interestingly, the frame sticker on my one says 115Kg...

Could you take a picture maybe I have misread mine, will check again when at home.

If it's like mine it shows the bike plus rider plus luggage is 105 or 115kg so you have to subtract the weight of the bike anyway which is 12-13kg so its 92kg or 102kg without luggage.

If you have a magnet check your forks to see if steel or aluminium, mine are aluminium its possible you have steel. I only mention that as I saw something previously that indicated they were steel forks but mine are aluminium. Maybe a spec change at some point.

My bike wasn't bought from sports direct, it was a shop soiled model from ebay so may not represent the same age of stock as currently shipping from sports direct. I didn't receive a manual or any literature with it. A slightly shop soiled example with a few scratches.

tds101 03-21-18 09:43 AM

The weight of the bike isn't counted in it's specifications. A bike listed as being able to carry 115kg is for rider + baggage.

Bonzo Banana 03-21-18 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by tds101 (Post 20236762)
The weight of the bike isn't counted in it's specifications. A bike listed as being able to carry 115kg is for rider + baggage.

You'd think that logically but that isn't how the certification is written sadly.

When you see that symbol it shows bike+rider+luggage=105kg it actually means including the weight of the bike. It isn't very common sense and may be something more related to Europe than elsewhere. If you read the manuals below (scan for kg) you will see the btwin bike has a total weight allowance of 100kg including the weight of the bike and the Carrera/13 manual has a weight limit of 160kg including the weight of the bike. I've double checked my bike and it is a combined weight of 105kg on mine sadly not 115kg. However many cycle manuals give clearer instructions and don't mention this stupid combined weight rubbish but I think some bikes that have low strength weak frames like to show the maximum weight including the bike weight because they think it looks better. What annoys me about this is that if they give a standard maximum capacity like 100kg like btwin that means a 8kg carbon bike allows for a 92kg rider without luggage but a 18kg comfort bike only has a weight capacity of 82kg despite being much stronger. So it makes little sense and you have to bypass your logic chip to accept it.

http://www.btwin.com/notices/wp-cont...5V_EN_PE12.pdf

http://www.halfords.com/wcsstore/lib...manual_new.pdf

tds101 03-21-18 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Bonzo Banana (Post 20237180)
You'd think that logically but that isn't how the certification is written sadly.

When you see that symbol it shows bike+rider+luggage=105kg it actually means including the weight of the bike. It isn't very common sense and may be something more related to Europe than elsewhere. If you read the manuals below (scan for kg) you will see the btwin bike has a total weight allowance of 100kg including the weight of the bike and the Carrera/13 manual has a weight limit of 160kg including the weight of the bike. I've double checked my bike and it is a combined weight of 105kg on mine sadly not 115kg. However many cycle manuals give clearer instructions and don't mention this stupid combined weight rubbish but I think some bikes that have low strength weak frames like to show the maximum weight including the bike weight because they think it looks better. What annoys me about this is that if they give a standard maximum capacity like 100kg like btwin that means a 8kg carbon bike allows for a 92kg rider without luggage but a 18kg comfort bike only has a weight capacity of 82kg despite being much stronger. So it makes little sense and you have to bypass your logic chip to accept it.

http://www.btwin.com/notices/wp-cont...5V_EN_PE12.pdf

http://www.halfords.com/wcsstore/lib...manual_new.pdf

In the USA the way I've stated it is the way it's legally described. In Europe the laws are different, and oftentimes we see different bikes with different specs for different locals. There is no need for me to mentally make an adjustment,...

Bonzo Banana 03-22-18 02:25 AM

Yeah I really don't get it, when you give a maximum load for a bridge you don't include the weight of the bridge with it. Why we have this in Europe I don't know it makes it confusing for the end customers especially when many brands don't write it this way so you have to work out the rider weight limit on a bike by bike basis.

gdlerner 03-24-18 02:31 PM

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Hi fellow
today I got the bike and I am happy with it looks very good.I need it to adjust the front brake and some spokes on the rear wheel.After checking all the screw I went for a small ride about 8km and the bike ride very smooth.
Thank you for all the advice

tds101 03-24-18 03:02 PM

Very nice,...and I see it's labeled as total weight capacity as Bike + Rider + Luggage = 115kgs/253lbs. Pretty solid,...

Bike weight is 12.8/28.2lbs, so Rider + Luggage capacity = 253lbs - 28.8 lbs = 224.8lbs. At least, that's what the European labeling states. Hmmmm,...

Bonzo Banana 03-25-18 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by gdlerner (Post 20243192)
Hi fellow
today I got the bike and I am happy with it looks very good.I need it to adjust the front brake and some spokes on the rear wheel.After checking all the screw I went for a small ride about 8km and the bike ride very smooth.
Thank you for all the advice

Strangely your bike looks identical to mine but its a different model number and has a different rider weight capacity. Do you have a magnet to check against the forks and saddle post? Not sure why mine is 10kg less in capacity. My model number is 938023/30/020 UK OYM slightly different to yours. The image below shows a hair on the tube which I have since removed just incase you thought it might have been a crack in the frame. I didn't get a manual so no idea what that says about weight capacity. However I do have another Muddyfox bike and that has a manual that states 115kg. Mine was ex-display and could have been displayed for sometime. The bike came with a few small scratches but the tyres were brand new etc. It didn't come in its original box. I'm assuming later stock revised the weight capacity upwards possibly so that the weight limits match those of the standard Muddyfox manual. Alternatively you have either steel forks or you have a stronger saddlepost. Your frame and wheels look identical.

http://i63.tinypic.com/1zp0jg4.jpg

Bonzo Banana 03-25-18 03:25 AM

Found quite a big difference. My Shimano Nexus is the SG-C3000-7R not SG-C30001-7R which would indicate mine is definitely older I would of thought although still many bikes sold now with SG-C3000's and you can buy the hubs on their own and still features in their current line up. Seems to be a steel hub case rather than aluminium of the C3001. No indication of strength difference on the Shimano technical papers and most parts appear to be the same so unlikely to be the cause of the weight difference. Both appear to be designs meant for roller brakes that can also be used with V brakes. The newer Nexus is about 100g lighter.

https://bike.shimano.com/content/pro...3000-int7.html

https://bike.shimano.com/content/dam...1_750_750.jpeg

https://bike.shimano.com/content/dam...1_750_750.jpeg


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