Steel is real
I have been using a Schwinn Tempo from the 80s for work ,is converted to fixed gear so only the frame and bottom bracket are original, today i started to hear a noise , like a cracking noise , only at certain moments like pushing hard and such...check this out, no big crashes on this frame.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...84913c9d25.jpg It cracked on one of the lugs, its supposed to be Columbus SL. ..too many watts? https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b53d262090.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...09e0cd6705.jpg |
There is no sadder day than broken frame day, but...there is no happier day than new frame day!
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Originally Posted by Piff
(Post 21558447)
There is no sadder day than broken frame day, but...there is no happier day than new frame day!
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So only 30+ years out of it?
BB shell and lugs not Columbo so.. Maybe not destined to live forever as a fixed gear. Yep, probably too many watts, for this one. ;) |
Originally Posted by Gods lonely man
(Post 21558461)
Maybe is time to leave the 80s and jump to aluminium or more fancy stuff :foo:
Most of them still going strong. |
Originally Posted by Gods lonely man
(Post 21558461)
Maybe is time to leave the 80s and jump to aluminium or more fancy stuff :foo:
An early/mid '70s super course would make a fine fixed gear. Straight gauge 531 frame and hi-ten forks/stays makes for a stiff frame (yet comfy given the long wheelbase), and the rear dropouts are already 120mm. And with all the schmutz (components) taken off, I bet it'd come down to around 22 pounds fully built. Still, not exactly lightweight :lol: You'll likely have to take it into a frame builder to get it straightened as well. But I think they ride real nicely, and it'd be worth a try if you see one in your area that looks to be in alright condition. Definitely inspect the lugs for gaps. |
Originally Posted by Gods lonely man
(Post 21558461)
Maybe is time to leave the 80s and jump to aluminium or more fancy stuff :foo:
Certain models can be harsh, for sure but it's a work bike right? You'll be fast. :thumb: |
The Tempo heart broke when you converted it to fixie. This is the evidence of its broken heart. Just kidding. Good thing it didn't completely break off and cause injury to you.
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It survived pretty rough weather and terrains, time to put it on the wall, i wonder if Schwinn accepts returns :innocent:
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Took out my 1960 Paramount the other day. It was real ... fun.
I spread the frame to get a 6-speed cluster in there. I need gears to go fast and climb hills on my 60-year old steel road bike. :p |
Wow , I have never seen a bottom bracket shell crack like that. I am glad you are ok, sometimes frame failure leads to injury.
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Originally Posted by malcala622
(Post 21558491)
The Tempo heart broke when you converted it to fixie. This is the evidence of its broken heart.
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Originally Posted by merziac
(Post 21558465)
So only 30+ years out of it?
BB shell and lugs not Columbo so.. Maybe not destined to live forever as a fixed gear. Yep, probably too many watts, for this one. ;) |
Originally Posted by seedsbelize
(Post 21558513)
Your guads are simply too big
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Originally Posted by Kabuki12
(Post 21558503)
Wow , I have never seen a bottom bracket shell crack like that. I am glad you are ok, sometimes frame failure leads to injury.
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Steel is real breakable.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 21558704)
Steel is real breakable.
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Originally Posted by madpogue
(Post 21558808)
What isn't?
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Sad :( But yeah, it sets you up for a New Bike Day.
I'm trying to figure out what caused that weird pea-sized void in the BB shell casting, above the big crack line. I've seen broken bottom brackets before, but I've never seen THAT. If you're tall, I have an '87 Tempo frame the will be on the chopping block soon. First photo in this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ger-frame.html |
Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 21558832)
Kryptonite?
Plastic is fantastic. Sorry about your bike @Gods lonely man. |
Dy
Originally Posted by merziac
(Post 21558465)
So only 30+ years out of it?
BB shell and lugs not Columbo so.. Maybe not destined to live forever as a fixed gear. Yep, probably too many watts, for this one. ;) Still, as you say, 30 years ain't bad. Looks to me like they cheaped out on the BB, which is where the failure occurred. It's a little odd to see such a cheap looking BB shell on a Columbus bike, but then it was always pretty common for many bike companies to save a few pennies where they thought no one would notice. When I was wrenching I used to judge bike companies at least a little based on how many cheap components and parts they would sneak in. |
Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
(Post 21558847)
Sad :( But yeah, it sets you up for a New Bike Day.
I'm trying to figure out what caused that weird pea-sized void in the BB shell casting, above the big crack line. I've seen broken bottom brackets before, but I've never seen THAT. If you're tall, I have an '87 Tempo frame the will be on the chopping block soon. First photo in this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ger-frame.html |
All this stuff is just on loan, anyway.
It’ll end up in the paper-thin layer of the Earth’s crust that will be remnants of man. |
Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
(Post 21558847)
I'm trying to figure out what caused that weird pea-sized void in the BB shell casting, above the big crack line. I've seen broken bottom brackets before, but I've never seen THAT.
As for the "void" area, I suspect that's probably a paint defect. If you're tall, I have an '87 Tempo frame the will be on the chopping block soon. First photo in this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ger-frame.html |
Fatigue failure, plain and simple. Likely a combination of the BB shell design and excessive heat during application. Excessive heat lowers the endurance limit, while the design causes stress risers. This combination can end up in a region where typical forces will eventually cause fatigue failures.
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