Need modifications to sit-up
I have an old Mongoose Hilltopper with little mileage that I haven't used in years. I am starting to use it again. When I ride it I have to lean forward and lift my head which hurts my neck (age). Since I only want to ride for exercise and pleasure I would like to sit up. Should I buy different handlebars and a stem or would handlebars be sufficient? Is this a good option or is buying a different bike a better option? Thanks.
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I'd try a high-rise stem stem first, and if that doesn't get you enough height, then look at high-rise handlebars.
Also, might look at a threaded to threadless stem converter, which might give you more modern options for both stem and bars. Also, raising handlebars a might require new cables. |
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When I was looking for threaded to threadless stem converters I came across the Zoom quick comfort adjustable quill stem. What are your thoughts about it?
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Probably the cheapest (about $20.00) and easiest fix is a stem riser. I have Delta Stem Risers on two bikes and they solved my problems. There are other brands out there that I'm sure work well.
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Before giving advice on what you should get, it is best to know what you already have: -If this is a threaded steerer, is the stem already adjusted as high as it can go? -How long is the current stem? -How much rise and backsweep does your current handlebar have? Pics help. |
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https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8fad478696.jpg Thanks for the replies. Attached are a couple photos. I hope they help. It is adjusteded as high as it can go. Overall length of stem is about 145mm. The inner measurement is about 90mm. I wasn't sure how to measure it. |
Nice looking bike.
How much higher do you think you want the bars? Do you want them closer to you as well? If it is just a little higher and closer to you, you may achieve that with a new stem. Otherwise a riser bar might be a good idea as well. Not a fan of adjustable stems myself, but some folks like them and if you are just riding on the road or bike paths, they should be fine. If it sounds like a good idea to you, go for it. |
With that bike that's got the brakes and shifters like that well all those cables will have to be changed ,,,,,, shifters and brakes.....at least you can still use those same levers....
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With all the changes that will need to be made to get the bike the way I want it, I think it will be better to look for a used bike that is already setup like I want it. What are your thoughts and suggestions about that?
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I'd suggest getting a higher angled and shorter stem. If that isn't enough, add-on some risers.
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Thanks Rob. Any suggestions as to what angle and how short?
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Originally Posted by robrpb
(Post 20832068)
Thanks Rob. Any suggestions as to what angle and how short?
If you lived in the SF Bay Area I'd offer my help as I have a few different stems that will fit your bike. |
FWIW I tried cruiser bars on a bike much like this one and they were still too low. Unless you get some handlebars with a lot of rise, I don’t think just the stem is going to do it. You can get a wider seat and push it back too. But really, you are trying to make it into a different kind of bike that already exists. Even a brand new mountain bike has more handlebar rise than this thanks to the larger size wheels and suspension fork. You could look at one of those, or a comfortable town bike that sits you up completely. |
Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
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...But really, you are trying to make it into a different kind of bike that already exists. What bikes that already exist would you recommend? |
At the extreme, Electra Townie... or a recumbent. But most companies make a bike that sits back much more than a 90’s MTB. This is just an example... my wife has one similar though not identical https://www.raleighusa.com/venture-2-r141 |
Thanks Darth Lefty. I looked at the Electra Townie, nice bike but very expensive. I like the price of the Raleigh much more. Maybe I can find a used one in good condition.
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Originally Posted by robrpb
(Post 20831957)
With all the changes that will need to be made to get the bike the way I want it, I think it will be better to look for a used bike that is already setup like I want it. What are your thoughts and suggestions about that?
But again, do you know just how much higher and further back you want the bars? |
Originally Posted by Kapusta
(Post 20832210)
...But again, do you know just how much higher and further back you want the bars?
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Surly just released a new handlebar and it reminded me of this thread. It's not suitable for your bike because it has a modern 31.8mm clamp diameter, but it's similar enough to a lot of others available, with a 34 degree sweep and 40mm rise. Bars like this have the effect of relaxing your wrists, but they don't really sit you up very much, only a little from where you started. They will still be about level with the seat.
https://surlybikes.com/uploads/parts...-1000x1000.jpg Surly has another handlebar, the Sunrise, which will sit you up, but not sure if its style will suit you. https://surlybikes.com/uploads/parts...-1000x1000.jpg |
Originally Posted by robrpb
(Post 20831957)
With all the changes that will need to be made to get the bike the way I want it, I think it will be better to look for a used bike that is already setup like I want it. What are your thoughts and suggestions about that?
Find a bar that has a width and sweep that feels good, then see where it fits on your bike, to determine the height and reach of the stem you'll need. With the style of front brake you have, it'll need a longer cable, but the rest of the cables look to have big enough loops to handle moving a couple of inches higher or wider without too much trouble. Check out this thread for ideas: Vintage MTB To Upright Bar / Urban Bike Conversions |
Thanks Ironfish653 for the link. I'll check it out.
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robrpb : It would be nice to see the whole bicycle to check out the height difference between your seat and handlebar. I was able to solve my height problem with a ritchey adjustable stem. My seat and handlebar were about level with each other. I now have the handlebar about 2 1/2" higher than the seat.
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Wal-Goose ?
Ape hanger high rise bars will let you sit nicely upright,
But.. You would not want to do any off road single track riding, because all that added length upright , will surely move with the added leverage of that high rise.. Since I only want to ride for exercise and pleasure I would like to sit up. Adding a Stem Raiser to your fork is another option.. Quill stem type is a Chromoly tube reduced half way of its length, so inside if top is = to outside of the bottom. you can reuse your stem and bars , if you wish.. inserted in the top.. Maybe BMX bars and a stem ,, that you can get the bars clamped in Really securely tight, will work for both.. You will have to replace all the cables to reach the new height, of coursre .... |
I would buy a new bike that fit my body and the type of riding I want to do. There are a lot of used bikes on Craigslist. Ride them all and buy the one that works for you and your riding style.
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