Trying to Decide GravelKing: SK vs Slick
My bike will fit up to 32 - so looking at a GK tire for 50% paved / 50% gravel with one a couple big gravel rides coming up. Takes me some long miles on pavement to hit the gravel - so wondering which one I should get. Any advice appreciated!
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I have 38mm SK's.
I can cruise pretty comfortably on the road with them. They are definitely an aggressive tire though. How is the dirt on the rides you've got planned? Packed without a bunch of gravel or climbing? Get slicks. Loose and climbs? Sections of singletrack? Get the SK. One other thought, I bet you could sit in with a pack on the road portion, if other people are with you. That might cancel out the higher drag you'd get with the tires riding alone. |
SK on the front, slick on the back.
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SK on the front, slick on the back. Jan Heine wrote up an interseting article explaing why size of the tire is more important than tread on a bicycle, claiming that with the right size and pressure a slick tire had as much gravel traction as a tire with knobs. In my personal experience, while the breakaway point may be the same on on many surfaces, the breakaway characteristics of a tire with deep tread is much different. Slick tires tend to let go quite suddenly while treaded tires can have large slip angles before finally giving up. |
SK or Clement USH for a 32. I run the GK slicks but in a 38 on smooth gravel. A 32 seems too narrow to get any sort of traction in mixed conditions
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I'd take knobs. They aren't that much slower on pavement, especially in 32 width. 40+ would more open to debate but narrow widths have been pretty much a wash for me with respect to speed differences on pavement compared to the traction and confidence gains on gravel.
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"Gravel" covers a lot of conditions, but if it were for here, SK all the way-- as we don't have proper gravel. We have sand over clay, clay sometimes on it's own, and clay mixed with sand. If you have something like crushed limestone, either would work. And while SKs certainly don't roll on pavement like a high-pressure road tire, they do remarkably well for what they are. Go as wide as you can in the front. My frame will only clear a 38 between the chainstays, but fits a 43 in the fork with room to spare. That extra cushion in the front is well worth it.
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Originally Posted by redlude97
(Post 20865149)
SK or Clement USH for a 32. I run the GK slicks but in a 38 on smooth gravel. A 32 seems too narrow to get any sort of traction in mixed conditions
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Originally Posted by Barrettscv
(Post 20865189)
The 700x32 Gravelking is about 35mm wide on the wide rims found on most gravel bikes.
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Originally Posted by bobin
(Post 20864814)
My bike will fit up to 32 - so looking at a GK tire for 50% paved / 50% gravel with one a couple big gravel rides coming up. Takes me some long miles on pavement to hit the gravel - so wondering which one I should get. Any advice appreciated!
Most gravel tires are wider than 32mm. Only the 700x31Vittoria Terreno Dry is about 32mm wide. If you have an "endurance" road bike, you might be limited to this tire and a few others. |
Originally Posted by Barrettscv
(Post 20865189)
The 700x32 Gravelking is about 35mm wide on the wide rims found on most gravel bikes.
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time for OP to get a real bike
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
(Post 20865205)
Have you measured more recent production? The current production run of all gravelking models has casing widths ~3-5% shorter than previously. 38mm slicks that measured 42mm now measure 38mm on the same 23mm inside width rims. 32s were 32mm and the 35s were 36mm.
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Originally Posted by redlude97
(Post 20865267)
When did this happen? Mine are from last year but may have been old stock. May have to go to something compass branded if that's the case and the cost shoots up signficantly
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
(Post 20865412)
Late 2018/early 2019 were the first examples I noticed.
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Haven't ridden the GK slicks but had Vittoria Voyagers on my bike last summer which aren't too dissimilar ..... were brilliant over all terrain until the 1st sign of rain and quickly became lethal on the slightest mud ... swapped for GK SK's through the winter and they're great even cope with the mud quite well but I'll probably swap back again for the summer.
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Originally Posted by Chi_Z
(Post 20865248)
time for OP to get a real bike
I've been happy to be on the road bike on plenty of dirty rides. It truly is a light and fast beast. |
Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
(Post 20865412)
Late 2018/early 2019 were the first examples I noticed.
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I'm basically in the same boat. I think 32mm is about the max I can do in the front, and that's assuming the tire isn't tall. The options I see are 32mm GK SK, 31mm Terreno Dry, or the harder to find and more expensive 26mm GK SK.
I really need to know how tall the SKs are. |
You wanna wait a week or two I can measure at the next event I do ;)
SKs might be the most common tire I see on gravel rides. FWIW the slicks are short tires, the 38s I have are 38mm wide now and only 34.5mm tall. |
I bought 43 mm GK SK's about three months ago and put one on the front of my bike. An older 38 is on the back.
The 38 measures 40.5. The 43 measures 43.5. -Tim- |
Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
(Post 20876887)
You wanna wait a week or two I can measure at the next event I do ;)
SKs might be the most common tire I see on gravel rides. FWIW the slicks are short tires, the 38s I have are 38mm wide now and only 34.5mm tall. How do you feel about the Slicks on gravel? Durable? |
I have SK's in 700x35. The knobby treads aren't the best for on road. On singletrack and gravel they are phenomenal but for 75% road usage for me. I wish I went with something smoother. The gum sidewalls are nice though.
I believe gravelkings are a "true" 35mm width. Not like panaracer ribmo's which are much narrower than advertised. |
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