advice for choosing bike, sirrus vs bassano
 

Hello, these are my two options. My main use wold be conmutting. The bassano is 200 dollars more expensive, I guess the componets are a bit better. would be wort it to pay the extra money?

The bassado is 2, 60 pounds lighter. The sirrus seller is telling that for conmuting in the city a bit heavier bike like the sittus would be more stable, what you think of this?

The sirrus has internal cable routing, can be this a significant advantage to use in the city?



Specialised sirrus comp

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bik...rus/sirruscomp


wilier bassano weekend



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No. Heavier is not better or more stable. Personally, choosing between those two, I'd get the Wilier.

+ maybe you should not compare a straight bar bikes and a drop bar bike ,
look for a specialized model more like that .


Will you Test ride them both at the dealer?

How is the bike theft where you live?

Describe your riding, and plans.. do you even need a Roadracer style bike?

Since commuting is your primary focus quit this dreaming , and slobbering, over Italian bikes that are all wrong for commuting.

For pure commuting a steel frame hardtail MTB is ideal plus for a steel bike a whole lot cheaper than either one of those bike from Italy.

IMHO, the Specialized Sirrus is the only way to go! :thumb:

No I could not test them, just look at them, the wilier is lighter.
I am not interested in steel or MTB, I prefer a more road orientes style. The use is conmuting but I also want to do some exercise, In where I live there are bike lanes all around the city that are long and can be good for this purpose. The rest of the city is going to be asphalt with the occasional potholes

could you please explain why?

Drool away , but for practicality ..

Go in to a Bike shop , and test ride what you can get and more importantly
have local service after the sale , to fall back on..
is that nearest bike shop a Specialized dealer ?
they have racer bikes too. in addition to the Sirrus Model.

In Brooklyn I'd never have a bike like that, that you cannot bring inside all the time.

even then Burglury theft is a risk.

For $200 cheaper, you'll most likely be getting a very similar experience.

However, I must admit that the Bassano does look much better...

If the componentry is much better than X7, then we can rule out the Sirrus, altogether!


* Italians make such beautiful bikes! :thumb:

The bassano componentry is a shimano 105 rear and the rest is tiagra, including shifters and crankset, from what I have seen X7 is priced very similar, is the 105/tiagra better than the x7 with an average crankset?

Yes, specialized dealer but they dont let you ride them, just take a look at the store, it´s like that around here

The problem is that the X7 is MTB componentry, while 105 and Tiagra are both of road bike componentry.


Sorta like comparing apples with oranges in a way. You do find X7 componentry on quality MTN bikes, though. Of course, we all know that 105 is highly respected on quality road bikes. I wouldn't be too quick to place Tiagra above X7 componentry.

Yes, that´s what I thought. What would be the difference oradvantages of using MTB componentry vs. road for city commuting use?

I would speculate this:

Since both are highly rated, I would expect the MTB componentry to stand up to more abuse. OTOH, I'd expect the 105/Tiagra combo to be smoother in shifting, since road bikes are expected to be used in races.

However in reality, it most probably doesn't make any difference at all! :D

PS.

Most people are more satisfied with vehicles that not only perform well, but look good too!

That's actually how I've always selected my cars and women...

That said, get the Bassano! :thumb:

That´s a great quote!

Where do you live? You posted a link to the Sirrus made for the American market. Any Specialized dealer in the USA knows they'd probably lose a sale if they didn't allow test rides.

The components on bikes can differ on any given model from region/market to region/market. For example, the Sirrus made for the U.S. could be different than one meant to sell in England or France. Not always the case, but it does happen...

Most importantly ride the bikes. Make it clear that if you cant test ride the bikes you wont buy. Go out of the area if you have to. Then buy the bike that fits you best and is the most comfortable. Stability? Salesman baloney to try to sell you a bike. Internal routing. Not important IMO. Components. The sirrus probably has a wider range of gears. Not important unless it is hilly where you ride. Is it flat where you live? Consider single speeds. Light and simple to maintain. Also consider steel. Surly crosscheck is an example of a great steel bike with some style that is ideal for commuting and fun to ride. Whatever you decide enjoy your new bike!

I looked up some of your other posts and I see you live in Spain? Why aren't you considering the Orbea Carpe? If I was in the market for a flat bar commuting roadish type of bike that would be at or near the top of my list. My local bike shop has one on his floor and every time I go in it catches my eye.

Please do not give mis information.

I always try not too...

Didn't you notice the simile?

Yes I did. But you failed. Some people will take you seriously.

After, using the word "speculate" in addition to the simile?

So you are giving them mis information on purpose. Got it.

For test rides leaving a drivers license , and/or a credit card is usually sufficient collateral..
at least where I have worked in LBS.

but maybe in Bad weather, December, going out on the bike makes it a mess to clean up
after the test.
try again in the season that wont be as messy..

or if they will set them up on a trainer stand , front wheel leveled,
you get a sense of Dynamic fit feel.

you already know the normal ideal frame size that has worked on other bikes of that type?

Since you're talking about commuting;the Sirrus's V brakes will allow for wider tires and fenders than the Wknd's caliper brakes,the 48/34x11-36 drivetrain will allow easier climbing than the Wknd's narrower 50/34x11-28,and the Specialized tires will have better puncture protection than the Maxxis D's. Also,SRAM shifters utilize two thumb levers,which makes them easier to operate with winter gloves/mittens than Shimano triggers. The X-7 groupo is also a touch higher in spec than the 105/Tiagra combo.


He didn't. Most average riders can't tell the difference between groupos that aren't several levels apart in quality. Most people will notice a difference between 2300 and Dura Ace,but would never know if you swapped their Deore shifters for LX.

What distances? In the rain (you might want fenders)?

It's possible that the other uses (which you don't specify) are more critical.