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Nubra 12-13-19 03:59 PM

Saved, but now what?
 
Offered for free on neighborhood LISTSERV. Went to pick it up and had to cut it out of the ivy. This is a neighborhood only 3/4 miles from the bay. What really got caught my attention is the piston like front derailleur. I am going to try and epoxy if possible with such degraded plastic. This is the first I’ve seen of this type. Seems a pretty cool design.
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Kabuki12 12-13-19 04:06 PM

Probably find another derailleur as they are not very expensive. Also if you have a bike coop in your area it is a great resource for parts you may need. It looks like a great project for the winter doldrums. Joe. joesvintageroadbikes.wordpress

merziac 12-13-19 04:41 PM

Nubra

I rarely say this but, mostly all scrap here, FD is cracked and toast, RD and shifters likely too. The rest is pretty rusty and this was at or near the bottom of the line so....... :(

It's a mixte, unisex for all model, cool to be sure, Peugeot made many of them as did many others.

Here's a 1978 Motobecane Grand Touring that was a home run with Ms. merziac a few years ago, love them. ;)


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Bianchigirll 12-13-19 04:57 PM

Nice brake levers. The rest needs to go back in the ivy

nlerner 12-13-19 04:57 PM

Might want to put that one back under a bush.

3speedslow 12-13-19 05:01 PM

Not poison ivy I hope!

big chainring 12-13-19 05:50 PM

Get out tge white rustoleum and paint it. Its very salvageable. Long cage Simplex derailleur is cool.

jdawginsc 12-13-19 05:58 PM

I see potential in the stem, cranks, rear brake caliper and the frame if you are so motivated.

Bar might be fun to de-rustify.

Derailleurs are dead, shifters not sure...the rims I remember from my first bike (a Peugeot)...not fondly.

uncle uncle 12-13-19 06:18 PM

My triage effort would probably be pulling off main assemblies and parts, just to see what's what. It might be that the stem, seat post, crank, etc. could be so salt air effected that nothing comes off. Reassess after that. Even as a "mercy build", with no thought of turning a profit, your time is worth something (meaning that less work would be needed to get another bicycle back in working order). Definitely a lot of learning there, for a newbie. Best wishes friend.

cudak888 12-13-19 07:11 PM

Interesting. Looks like someone tried to keep it going in the mid-1990's with a few newer bits.

If you want to try getting it running at minimal cost, swap out the FD for something usable, put another pair of stem shifters on it, and perhaps a Tektro 800A up front for decent braking (or unstick the existing calipers and throw Kool-Stops on them). After all, rust and ugliness makes for a good beater/lock-it-up bike*.

The aluminum rim up front looks a bit interesting - it has the old Raleigh Westrick cross-section. Is it 27" or 26x1-3/8?"

-Kurt

*Anywhere but New York.

SurferRosa 12-13-19 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Nubra (Post 21244475)
What really got caught my attention is the piston like front derailleur... Seems a pretty cool design.

It's not cool. It might be the least functional ever.

ryansu 12-13-19 07:55 PM

I hear good things about evapo rust and it could be an experiment in rust removal,,,,, or sometimes you salvage what you can and send the frame to the scrap yard, I had a Raleigh road bike like that the seat tube was trashed beyond my ability to fix so I salvaged what I could and moved on. I would at least see if it can come a part and then go from there. Good luck.

Homebrew01 12-13-19 08:28 PM

I'd keep the front QR skewer as a spare in case I lost the other 25 I have.

Nubra 12-13-19 08:49 PM

As long as it rolls....and stops
 
Thanks for all the advice and commentary. I will start with a breakdown, try the saddle post first, then the stem, and then (yikes) see what I can do with the cottered cranks. My time is worth something, yes, but I do like taking on something like this just for the sake of getting it back on the road.If I have luck with the core issues, then I will proceed with used front derailleur, used tires, maybe even put on a couple of friction thumb shifters on the derusted handlebars (they are ugly but have a nice feel) from the local bike co-op, and get it back on the road. I don't make money from the bikes I rebuild, most of my rebuilds go to a local 403c bike group that then distributes them to agencies who deal with needy kids and adults in the area. This one I will sell on the cheap, proceeds $ will go to parts for the other worthier bikes for kids. It will be a fine beater for someone in town. Mixties are very popular here.

My time is worth something, yes, but I do like taking on something like this just for the sake of getting it back on the road.
Anyone interested in a build thread?
I did mean to post this on "Saved from the dump"thread. Can anyone tell me how to move it over there?
Thanks especially the kind and supportive comments, though I do understand the "put it back under a bush" comments as well.

Nubra 12-13-19 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by SurferRosa (Post 21244674)
It's not cool. It might be the least functional ever.

Functional or not, it is the first time I have seen a piston design.

norcalmike 12-13-19 08:52 PM

Heck ya I want to see a build thread

Nubra 12-13-19 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 21244543)
Not poison ivy I hope!

:)

curbtender 12-13-19 09:21 PM

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I just sold this one for a whole $125. The derailleurs were still good and it shifted great. On it's way to Vietnam according to the buyer. Yours looks like a challenge, good luck.

garryg 12-13-19 09:43 PM

You can learn a lot with a project like that. I know when i first started messing with these old bikes i would be excited to pull that out of the weeds. Get at her and make her ride again!

Lascauxcaveman 12-14-19 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by garryg (Post 21244754)
You can learn a lot with a project like that. ...

That's the spirit! Don't listen to these nattering nabobs of negativism, @Nubra. I don't see anything there I'd toss, apart from the broken FD, rusted out handlebars and those crappy steel rims. Ten or fifteen hours of your time, a couple hundred bucks in parts, and you've got a decent riding bike you could sell for a good 80 bucks or so, It would be an education. :thumb:

Wildwood 12-14-19 06:33 AM

Nubra, please include lots of pics of Santa Cruz with shots of the Peugeot.
At times i really miss that place, esp the beginning of a Seattle winter season.

edit: oh yeah, what to do with the bike? Don't rehab it too much. It is, after all, a SantaCruzin street & beach bike, likely inclined toward relapse.

JohnDThompson 12-14-19 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by big chainring (Post 21244577)
Get out tge white rustoleum and paint it. Its very salvageable. Long cage Simplex derailleur is cool.

Save the long cage; toss the rest of the derailleur. You can use the cage on another Simplex derailleur to extend its chain-wrap capacity.

Kabuki12 12-14-19 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21244524)
Nubra

I rarely say this but, mostly all scrap here, FD is cracked and toast, RD and shifters likely too. The rest is pretty rusty and this was at or near the bottom of the line so....... :(

It's a mixte, unisex for all model, cool to be sure, Peugeot made many of them as did many others.

Here's a 1978 Motobecane Grand Touring that was a home run with Ms. merziac a few years ago, love them. ;)


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1c16a3a4d8.jpg

Very nice bike. It is the same color as my daughter's Gran Jubile'. I still have it in my garage with her Raleigh . She doesn't ride anymore , she is into roller derby!? Joe

BFisher 12-14-19 09:32 AM

Sometimes I'm surprised by responses. If anything, as was stated by garryg, this is a learning project, and a good one.

This can be done cheaply, and still come out decent. It'll just cost time.

An angle grinder, a brass cup wire brush, and a respirator = blank canvas.

Spray or brush on some kind of finish.

Build a bike. Save the bottom bracket, stem and headset if they are still usable. Crankset looks fine from here.

That would make a nice errand bike.

garryg 12-14-19 09:44 AM

I thought this site was about love for old bikes, seems some folks think it is all about making money with old bikes.


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