Bike Forums

Bike Forums (https://www.bikeforums.net/forum.php)
-   Fifty Plus (50+) (https://www.bikeforums.net/forumdisplay.php?f=220)
-   -   Live to 100 or more? (https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=1178091)

berner 07-12-19 05:56 AM

Live to 100 or more?
 
I'm not convinced I want to live that long although my grandmother and great-grandmother did. Okinawans are the longest lived people on the planet. The secret of their success: BBC - Future - A high-carb diet may explain why Okinawans live so long

Lucillle 07-12-19 06:52 AM

I think you should live one day at a time. Enjoy today.

Jim from Boston 07-12-19 07:35 AM

Live to 100 or more?

Originally Posted by berner (Post 21023121)
I'm not convinced I want to live that long although my grandmother and great-grandmother did...

Originally Posted by Lucillle (Post 21023179)
I think you should live one day at a time. Enjoy today.


I have posted on several such threads:

Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 17841762)
Ever contemplate your mortality on the road?”

Actually, in one of my most serious contemplations of mortality, the Road served as a relief:

Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 17398049)
My magic moment when I realized what makes cycling fun (important) to me was at a lunch with two doctors about 20 years ago. We got to talking about the vicissitudes of life, like sudden death, or trivial symptoms as harbingers of a serious disease. We eventually came around to that old chestnut to live life to the fullest everyday.

As we were leaving, the surgeon, a marathon runner, said, “Well, any day with a run in it is a good day for me.” I was already an avid cyclist and cycle commuter, and that clicked with me, any day with a ride in it is a good day for me.



TakingMyTime 07-12-19 07:43 AM

I don't have enough money saved up to make it that long. :)

Biker395 07-12-19 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by TakingMyTime (Post 21023218)
I don't have enough money saved up to make it that long. :)

:lol:

I hear that!

My grandmother on the Sicilian side lived to 100. She certainly ate a lot of carbohydrates ... pasta and bread.

But the primary factors that probably do more to help the Okinawans live so long were stated in the article:

Genetic good fortune could be one important factor. Thanks to the geography of the islands, Okinawa’s populations have spent large chunks of their history in relative isolation, which may has given them a unique genetic profile. Preliminary studies suggest this may include a reduced prevalence of a gene variant – APOE4 – that appears to increase the risk of heart disease and Alzheimer’s. They may also be more likely to carry a protective variant of the FOXO3 gene involved in regulating metabolism and cell growth. This results in a shorter stature but also appears to reduce the risk of various age-related diseases, including cancer.

Even so, it seems unlikely that good genes would fully explain the Okinawans’ longevity, and lifestyle factors will also be important. The OCS has found that Okinawans are less likely to smoke than most populations, and since they worked predominantly in agriculture and fishing, they were also physically active. Their tight-knit communities also help the residents to maintain an active social life into old age. Social connection has also been shown to improve health and longevity by reducing the body’s stress responses to challenging events. (Loneliness, in contrast, has been shown to be as harmful as smoking 15 cigarettes a day.)


My guess is that all that completely overwhelms the diet aspects ... unless they are were to all change their eating habits pretty substantially.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1ad75c5ada.jpg

rumrunn6 07-12-19 09:41 AM

my 92 yr old Dad recently told me he has no money to leave me, only longevity

TakingMyTime 07-12-19 09:41 AM

On a more serious note...
I'm not sure how long I will live. I guess none of us really do. I just hope I'm able to keep doing the things I love to do for as long as I can. So far, all the yearly checkups keep coming back good. I'm hoping that's a good sign.

John E 07-12-19 10:06 AM

It's all about genes, luck, and lifestyle. You can't change the first, and you can influence the second only partially, but you have full control over the third.

My still-going-strong 94-year-old mother-in-law reminds her kids that she gave them good genes (spelled Jeanne -- her name) :) .

There are several nonagenarians and a couple of almost-nonagenarians in my family tree, as well, so my wife and I are budgeting our money for age 100+. However, I am far more concerned about quality of life than quantity.

TimothyH 07-12-19 10:43 AM

Every day is a gift from God which none of us have done anything to deserve or earn.

Plan prudently for tomorrow but don't worry about it because it might not come.

Be thankful for today. That's enough.


-Tim-

tyrion 07-12-19 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by berner (Post 21023121)
Okinawans are the longest lived people on the planet.

I think it's all the sushi.

Iride01 07-12-19 11:06 AM

Problem is that diet alone isn't the complete answer. There is no magic diet. There is no magic activity or exercise. There is no magic pill.

TimothyH 07-12-19 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by tyrion (Post 21023528)
I think it's all the sushi.

I do traditional meatless Fridays and this gives me an idea....


-Tim-

tyrion 07-12-19 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 21023871)
I do traditional meatless Fridays and this gives me an idea....


-Tim-

Basic sushi is relatively easy. I took a one day class from the author of this:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....4,203,200_.jpg

Rollfast 07-12-19 02:33 PM

Death stinks, but when I'm outta here that is that. 100 doesn't sound very good.

berner 07-12-19 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by John E (Post 21023465)
There are several nonagenarians and a couple of almost-nonagenarians in my family tree, as well, so my wife and I are budgeting our money for age 100+. However, I am far more concerned about quality of life than quantity.

While I've had a good draw in my ancestors and have the possibility of an above average long life, I'm more interested in the quality of that life which I can effect through my own actions. Good genes are not a blank check to good health. Those actions are good and balanced diet and exercise with some weight training. Old age brings on some aches and stiffness which takes more effort to deal with these days than the effort required even 5-6 years ago. My feeling is that maintaining mobility through stretching and maintaining range of motion is an important part of maintaining overall health. I can still remember breaking a leg playing sports in high school and being in a cast for 5 weeks. When the cast was removed leg muscles were atrophied with very poor range of motion. If you don't move, whatever the age, you soon will be unable to.

John E 07-12-19 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by berner (Post 21023986)
While I've had a good draw in my ancestors and have the possibility of an above average long life, I'm more interested in the quality of that life which I can effect through my own actions. Good genes are not a blank check to good health. Those actions are good and balanced diet and exercise with some weight training. Old age brings on some aches and stiffness which takes more effort to deal with these days than the effort required even 5-6 years ago. My feeling is that maintaining mobility through stretching and maintaining range of motion is an important part of maintaining overall health. I can still remember breaking a leg playing sports in high school and being in a cast for 5 weeks. When the cast was removed leg muscles were atrophied with very poor range of motion. If you don't move, whatever the age, you soon will be unable to.

I absolutely positively concur. The "fountain of youth" does exist and is fairly well know, but too many people ignore it.

John E 07-12-19 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Iride01 (Post 21023565)
Problem is that diet alone isn't the complete answer. There is no magic diet. There is no magic activity or exercise. There is no magic pill.

Avoiding white sugar and white flour is a pretty good start on a magic diet.

Walking aerobically 30 minutes or more per day is a pretty good start on a magic exercise or activity.

Avoiding the Standard American Diet and Sedentary American Lifestyle (SAD SAL) is a good start at putting more years in your life and life in your years, not to mention money in your bank account.

alloo 07-12-19 04:12 PM

I just want to live to 80, give me a shot.

OldTryGuy 07-12-19 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 21023522)
Every day is a gift from God which none of us have done anything to deserve or earn..........................Be thankful for today. That's enough.
-Tim-

I wonder if those on the receiving end of their daily gift in these locals

https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/ec...s-in-the-world

might want to return it if at all possible.

I have no desire to live to 100 and it wouldn't bother me if I were to flat-line tonight.

jppe 07-12-19 07:05 PM

I’d like to live long enough to at least shoot my age in golf. I’m currently 66 and shot a 67 last month. I shot a 70 yesterday so maybe its just a few years away. My genes seem to point to 90ish being a reasonable target for my family. I’m sure there’s enough things out there to keep me thoroughly entertained for at least another 30 years.

TimothyH 07-12-19 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by John E (Post 21024031)
Avoiding white sugar and white flour is a pretty good start on a magic diet.

Walking aerobically 30 minutes or more per day is a pretty good start on a magic exercise or activity.

Avoiding the Standard American Diet and Sedentary American Lifestyle (SAD SAL) is a good start at putting more years in your life and life in your years, not to mention money in your bank account.


The monks at the Trappist monastery here in Georgia all practice lifestyles similar to this. Many live into their 90's or past 100.


-Tim-

berner 07-12-19 08:03 PM

I'm pretty much a sugar-holic. I love the stuff. Ice cream? Every container is a single serving for me. But I have been making serious efforts to cut back and reading labels. Sugar is everywhere. Lately I've been making an extra serious super effort, While I have been losing that extra 15 pounds which got me down to within 4 pounds of high school weight when the waistline was a mere 31 inches, mostly cutting out sugar while eating everything else I'm finally down to 155 pounds, what I weighed at age 16. Who sez there are no miracles today?

spelger 07-12-19 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by berner (Post 21024335)
Ice cream? Every container is a single serving for me.

Made me laugh. I am planning on 100. FA even says I am on track for this. As long as I can ride though.

Iride01 07-12-19 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by John E (Post 21024031)
Avoiding white sugar and white flour is a pretty good start on a magic diet.

That would imply that I could substitute honey and whole wheat bread and some how be well on my way to health. But I don't buy that.

I do subscribe to the idea of limiting the amount of added sugars in our foods and watching the amount of empty Calorie foods we eat.

You can't tell me that I can replace white sugar with other sugars and be significantly healthier.

Kedosto 07-12-19 09:43 PM

Quality over quantity. When the quality is gone, I wanna be gone too... regardless of the number.


-Kedosto


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:57 AM.


Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.