Originally Posted by 3alarmer
(Post 21091252)
I'm guessing compact must refer to the chaistays, wheelbase, etc... |
I am of the mind I cannot tell much difference in Italian bikes of similar type/purpose and construction. An SLX bicycle of good construction and similar tube diameters, geometry and size is not going to be significantly different from some other nearly identical brand of Italian racing bicycle with the same tube set.
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orrrr... you could go Japanese: its not SLX its something... dare I say, better? as some above... you have an slx columbus frame. Try some Tange? you might like it.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...efeb664bcb.jpg |
Originally Posted by jetboy
(Post 21095820)
orrrr... you could go Japanese: its not SLX its something... dare I say, better?
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
(Post 21091108)
It's not so much what tubing as what is done with it.
And you can never have too much Italian steel. It's all about the angles. My Merckx Corsa Extra handles completely different (more responsive) than either of of my Colnagos. |
Originally Posted by nomadmax
(Post 21095902)
What he said ^^^^,
It's all about the angles. My Merckx Corsa Extra handles completely different (more responsive) than either of of my Colnagos. Oh to have such a stable to choose from. |
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 21095699)
Many good points of view.
but to cut to the chase and save money in the long run, buy a Colnago Super in your size and be done with it. I think colnago's are overrated and overpriced. |
They're the Rolex of Italian bikes...flashy, well marketed, everyone knows them. They aren't usually my thing, but they are for some others...they tend to be towards the extreme side of quick handling and tight geometry.
As said earlier - a Merckx guy is probably going to like De Rosas. The Colnago Super is a pretty dang nice bike...they've been around for a long time, and I think that's with reason. |
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 21095744)
Sweet!!! Does the back wheel rub the seattube when it gets hot out?
I'm guessing compact must refer to the chaistays, wheelbase, etc... https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3aee092a15.jpg |
Originally Posted by jetboy
(Post 21095820)
orrrr... you could go Japanese: its not SLX its something... dare I say, better? as some above... you have an slx columbus frame. Try some Tange? you might like it.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...efeb664bcb.jpg |
hah- you already have some Japanese steel then!
I was suggesting a zunow, if you can find one, because they are (on the top end) all hand built from custom tange tubing and Kageyama (builder ) loved italian bikes and was not shy about taking Italian geometry and design elements then adding his own engineering and vision. Others may correct me, but on the whole, other Japanese makers are more conservative and are based more on french & american designs. The Ironman is definitely designed in America- even if built in japan from japanese steel, its not actually a born in Japan ride. (I quite like the IM ride though!). the Miyata would probably not be tange- they had their own steel. |
I really like my Zunow Z-1. Handles kinda like a Cinelli. Fast like a Pelizzoli. Panto's all over like...a Zunow.
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
(Post 21095902)
What he said ^^^^,
It's all about the angles. My Merckx Corsa Extra handles completely different (more responsive) than either of of my Colnagos. DeRosa is rumored to use an SP downtube on larger frames (mid-80's), and maybe changes in the fork, but IDK for sure. A bunch of butted R531 in the group and they ride differently as well. |
Be different.
Buy a PRX tubed frame. :Dhttps://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d1aa2b41ed.jpg |
just to throw a wrench in: have you tried a r753? if you are interested in various vintage tube-sets this is one that is a must: I have to say, nothing rides like my look r753. maybe its the slack yet race ready angles, but ..its not all that: the thing sings.
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Originally Posted by jetboy
(Post 21098540)
just to throw a wrench in: have you tried a r753? if you are interested in various vintage tube-sets this is one that is a must: I have to say, nothing rides like my look r753. maybe its the slack yet race ready angles, but ..its not all that: the thing sings.
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Originally Posted by sumgy
(Post 21097599)
Be different.
Buy a PRX tubed frame. :Dhttps://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d1aa2b41ed.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a6ed9883c2.jpg |
Originally Posted by rccardr
(Post 21097298)
I really like my Zunow Z-1. Handles kinda like a Cinelli. Fast like a Pelizzoli. Panto's all over like...a Zunow.
I love me some Italian bikes. Personally, I think it's more about geometry than anything else. And more to the point, the geometry that suits you. |
Originally Posted by 3alarmer
(Post 21091252)
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c8e36ab4dd.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7dbb17c86b.jpg ...as stated so well above, the steel tubing from which a bike is constructed matters much, much less than geometry. Gios Compact and Merckx Century with longer top tube and chain stays to emphasize the contrast. Both SLX, but very different ride and handling characteristics. |
Reynolds 753R
Originally Posted by ironmirage
(Post 21098712)
Than sounds like a cool tube set to try but it seems rare.
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Originally Posted by sumgy
(Post 21097599)
Be different.
Buy a PRX tubed frame. :Dhttps://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d1aa2b41ed.jpg |
Originally Posted by ridelikeaturtle
(Post 21101169)
Those brown hoods are a nice touch. Did you plan & select them, or did they happen to come with the shifters?
They are from Hudz. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...205856d27c.jpg |
Just to let you guys know. I ended up buying a gios compact pro. I got it at a great price and now Im in love withhttps://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...25c5c364ac.jpg
the azure color. |
That bike whips, get a picture of it in front of some water or a mural and watch the likes roll in
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Basso Gap. A different feel to it than some of the other Italian steeds I have ridden. Love mine. Rossin ELOS Professional. Rocket and effortless. I have never ridden my dream bike from age 11...Ciocc...weirdly.
I'll let you know at some point about my Cromor Faggin! |
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