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WGB 08-09-23 09:26 AM

Correct tool??
 
I guess I could just try tapping with a screw driver or a punch, or, try using the Hozan tool for notched headsets but I thought I'd ask Incase I damaged the locking nuts.

What is the correct tool for these Suntour hubs?

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fe0027f614.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9c086fb78d.jpg



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WGB 08-09-23 09:43 AM

If it helps, I think they're Suntour XC.

jiangshi 08-09-23 09:48 AM

I think this is it:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/25606678297...Z9esBgVHDOx8WU

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/C5MAA...MR/s-l1600.png

RustyJames 08-09-23 09:52 AM

There is a tool for 4-pronged Suntour freewheels but not sure if it would be correct in this instance.

Yeah, I know. Real helpful. 🙄

juvela 08-09-23 09:53 AM

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i would use the VAR lock ring pliers Nr. 16


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jiangshi 08-09-23 10:38 AM

Maybe this one?:
https://www.bikeforums.net/20809270-post6.html

WGB 08-09-23 10:45 AM

I have the VAR tool so I'll try it "carefully".

Trying to find the correct tool might take some doing. Might get one for "next time".

Thank you all

Hobbiano 08-09-23 10:57 AM

As jiangshi said above, the Suntour TA260 is the correct tool.

WGB 08-09-23 11:31 AM

Gets better.

I have the VAR 13, not the 16!🤬
​​​​​​Local man has one so I'll bike over and borrow it.
He doesn't have the correct tool either..:cry:

OTS 08-09-23 12:39 PM

WGB
I have the right tool.
PM me your addy and I will send it out to you.
When you're done with it you can send it back.
Unless a better option comes your way.
Rick

WGB 08-09-23 01:36 PM

[MENTION=188117]OTS[/MENTION]

I'll pm you tonight. I search and see if anyone local has one and report back

Thank you

WGB 08-09-23 01:37 PM

Duplicate post

JohnDThompson 08-09-23 05:28 PM

No, that's the tool to adjust New Winner freewheels.
The tool for the XC hubs is this one:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aed6ad04e8.jpg

OTS 08-10-23 03:38 AM

The tool I have is the Suntour NWN which I thought, after the the first few posts, was the correct tool.
It turns out it is a freewheel adjustment tool.
After reading additional posts to this thread it turns out I DON'T have the correct tool.
ARRRRRRRGH
Sorry
Old guy trying to be helpful mistake.
After rooting around my tools I found another Suntour tool that I have no idea if it will work.
The search continues.
This is the other Suntour tool I found and I am NOT sure it will be helpful to you.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...704226c2e8.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8c2cde64a7.jpg
The business end
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8582f65a48.jpg

WGB 08-10-23 12:38 PM

[MENTION=188117]OTS[/MENTION] - Maybe someone here will recognize. Does this last tool have a Suntour model number? if so mr. Google might know it's purpose

Edit: believe it's a Suntour BB tool. Question is would it engage the seals on my hubs...**********

https://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/dsci634058be1dac63_lg.jpg

JohnDThompson 08-10-23 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by OTS (Post 22979869)
After rooting around my tools I found another Suntour tool that I have no idea if it will work.
The search continues.
This is the other Suntour tool I found and I am NOT sure it will be helpful to you.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...704226c2e8.jpg

No, that's the tool for SunTour bottom bracket cartridges.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7519e7f8d8.jpg
Unlike Shimano, SunTour, unfortunately, didn't see fit to mark the tool with the part number. :(

Found it, in a SunTour dealer catalog: TA230:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...10fd251315.jpg


The correct tool for the XC hubs is the TA260.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dfa3516bd1.jpg

WGB 08-10-23 06:05 PM

[MENTION=20548]JohnDThompson[/MENTION]

I had hoped it might work in lieu of finding the TA 260.
It seems I must find the correct tool . Might post a wanna buy on the sales thread. Frustrating that I got a nice 36/40 hole touring wheel set and can't ride them, but the one wheel seems stiff when it spins so better to wait.

Chuckk 08-11-23 08:10 AM

I liked your idea of a screwdriver and a mallet.
You could fix it, and still be able to do it again at least three more times.
That should take the wheel set into the next century.

Hobbiano 08-11-23 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by WGB (Post 22980713)
[MENTION=20548]JohnDThompson[/MENTION]

I had hoped it might work in lieu of finding the TA 260.
It seems I must find the correct tool . Might post a wanna buy on the sales thread. Frustrating that I got a nice 36/40 hole touring wheel set and can't ride them, but the one wheel seems stiff when it spins so better to wait.

You can get it apart without the tool. Just hold one locknut and unscrew the other. Then you can unscrew the aluminum cap with the adjustable metal sleeve with your fingers. If it's difficult to turn you should be able to just lift off the aluminum cap and use a wrench on the adjustable sleeve underneath. It's difficult to set the end play without the TA 260 to hold the adjustable sleeve while you tighten the lock nut. Maybe a bit of blue Loctite on the adjustable sleeve would hold the adjustment enough while you tightened the locknut. All you really need to do is hold the aluminum cap while you tighten the lock nut. I would not try to use any tool that could damage the cap. These are really nice hubs.

WGB 08-11-23 03:15 PM

Update: I went to a local mechanic who tried the VAR 16 with a wrench and then a socket, neither could turn as they jammed against the VAR 16 which moved it's pins.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8cf52aaebd.jpg

Option 2

He tried a Park Pin Spanner - BLUE ONE! (Believe it's the SPA-1)

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6c2226abea.jpg

Next step

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...36c5f0360d.jpg

Sorry for the blurred photo!

Worked perfectly. This is just a fancy dust cap and holding it still allows the nut to turn. To remove the sealed bearing you follow the standard procedure for removing a hub bearing once the axle is out and the bearing exposed.

In this case, it turns out the dust caps were on too tight and after they were properly adjusted the bearings spun perfectly.

Victory!

Still want that TA 260 "just to have one...."

panzerwagon 08-11-23 03:43 PM

Thanks for posting a follow-up.

I've got a number of Suntour tools. Just for my edification, do you mind measuring the ID and width of the slots on that dust cap?

Hobbiano 08-11-23 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by panzerwagon (Post 22981595)
Thanks for posting a follow-up.

I've got a number of Suntour tools. Just for my edification, do you mind measuring the ID and width of the slots on that dust cap?

I measured mine: diameter at bottom of slots: 0.828 - 0.831 (inches)
width of slots: 0.194 - 0.198 (inches)

Hobbiano 08-11-23 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by WGB (Post 22981575)
Update: I went to a local mechanic who tried the VAR 16 with a wrench and then a socket, neither could turn as they jammed against the VAR 16 which moved it's pins.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8cf52aaebd.jpg

Option 2

He tried a Park Pin Spanner - BLUE ONE! (Believe it's the SPA-1)

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6c2226abea.jpg

Next step

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...36c5f0360d.jpg

Sorry for the blurred photo!

Worked perfectly. This is just a fancy dust cap and holding it still allows the nut to turn. To remove the sealed bearing you follow the standard procedure for removing a hub bearing once the axle is out and the bearing exposed.

In this case, it turns out the dust caps were on too tight and after they were properly adjusted the bearings spun perfectly.

Victory!

Still want that TA 260 "just to have one...."

I think those blue Park slot spanners are hard to find too. I have the green and red pin spanners but have not been able to find the blue one.

WGB 08-11-23 05:58 PM

[MENTION=386860]Hobbiano[/MENTION] - You beat me to the measuring!

And as for the blue park tool being hard to find? That is the first law of bike tools. IF YOU NEED IT, THEY DON"T MAKE IT ANY MORE AND NO ONE HAS ONE TO LOAN YOU OR SELL TO YOU!


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