Landslide on PCH
I'd imagine we'll be hearing more about this from the ACA as details shake out. It will likely have a major impact on anyone ricing the PCH in the near future. It looks like something that won't be quickly repaired. Reports put it at or near Rat Creek.
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Saw that on the news last night..I'm sure they'll fix it, but I'm wondering how.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...584e30b63.jpeg |
I think I'm going to have to make a new category for the PCH on my bucket list: "Buy tickets as soon as CalTrans announces a new opening date."
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That’ll buff right out.
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I'm thinking one can single track around the washout. Which means some PCH car free cycling....just saying. I kinda like road blocks.
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Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 21905559)
I'm thinking one can single track around the washout. Which means some PCH car free cycling....just saying. I kinda like road blocks.
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parallel discussion in Foo starts at post 105:
https://www.bikeforums.net/21901219-post105.html |
I wonder when the civil engineers will come to the conclusion it is no longer repairable and look to re-route inland?
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This sort of thing happens in countries where steep hills and heavy rain happens, I've seen it often in Latin America. The last one on this highway was maybe 3 years ago? Must be a pain for the budgeting of local governments when you get umpteen million dollar surprises thrown at you.
the last one was out a couple of years no? |
Originally Posted by djb
(Post 21906124)
This sort of thing happens in countries where steep hills and heavy rain happens, I've seen it often in Latin America. The last one on this highway was maybe 3 years ago? Must be a pain for the budgeting of local governments when you get umpteen million dollar surprises thrown at you.
the last one was out a couple of years no? https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2...eopens-big-sur |
Ouch 54 million.
Re rerouting, the other option is to put in cement "sluices" in areas where it's known that heavy run off always occurs, gotta be cheaper in the long run. Civil engineers must be on top of and aware of changing rain events etc. |
This has and will forever happen on this road, waste of time repairing it, do like another poster said reroute around the worst areas, and save money. Or do like they did near Wollongong in Australia, do a sea bridge around the worst areas.
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Originally Posted by djb
(Post 21906148)
Ouch 54 million.
Re rerouting, the other option is to put in cement "sluices" in areas where it's known that heavy run off always occurs, gotta be cheaper in the long run. Civil engineers must be on top of and aware of changing rain events etc. nearly the entire stretch would need to be elevated...essentially a 75-mile bridge with deep posts. that ain't cheap. nor is mitigating the various private landholders along said area. |
Originally Posted by ooga-booga
(Post 21910541)
one factor that is difficult to plan for in this roughly 75-mile stretch is where the inevitable post-wildfire mudslides occur or don't.
nearly the entire stretch would need to be elevated...essentially a 75-mile bridge with deep posts. that ain't cheap. nor is mitigating the various private landholders along said area. Thanks for the added details. |
Originally Posted by djb
(Post 21910564)
I'm very aware that my comment was very much from a non civil engineer point of view, and as you bring up, there's lots of factors involved here. Will be a real challenge finding solutions and or the best big picture and long term budget solutions.
Thanks for the added details. a tortured such and corresponded landscape bestrewn viewed demonstrative. alas, mere mortals hewn to the budgeted and cosseted nature of fiscal matters. imbibe such promise that binds for casual repair yoked with mercury's celebrated fleet. |
Originally Posted by ooga-booga
(Post 21910673)
a tortured such and corresponded landscape bestrewn perfect demonstrative. alas, mere mortals hewn to the budgeted and cosseted nature of fiscal matters imbibe the promise that binds for casual repair yoked with mercury's celebrated fleet.
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Wow did we really need another challenge to doing the Pacific Coast route? I did Monterey to Santa Barbara just after they finished the work from the last slide! Still planning Seattle to Monterey.
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Originally Posted by djb
(Post 21910564)
I'm very aware that my comment was very much from a non civil engineer point of view, and as you bring up, there's lots of factors involved here. Will be a real challenge finding solutions and or the best big picture and long term budget solutions.
Thanks for the added details. It reminded me to check on the Kicking Horse Canyon project on the trans Canada highway, east of Golden B.C. This has been going on for years, and the last 4.8 km phase was announced in late 2015, and they still haven't started construction although it is scheduled for this spring. $600 million for the last stretch, estimated completion 2024. With any luck the pandemic will have abated by then. They do mention room for bicycles, that should make the Golden Triangle ride much safer.
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Originally Posted by phughes
(Post 21915706)
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Looks like the whole stretch is built on sand and gravel.
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Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 21905559)
I'm thinking one can single track around the washout. Which means some PCH car free cycling....just saying. I kinda like road blocks.
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How far out does the tide go? Can you ride/walk the beach?
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
(Post 21905583)
Not too sure about that. I think the "bush" to the left of @fishboat's picture is actually the top of a tree that slid down the mountain.
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