Catch all Professional Cycling Chat (Possible Spoilers)
Didn't see a thread (yes there is a whole forum dedicated to it...but whatever) for pro cycling discussion.
With that, US Jr's did quite well in the world championship TT today with a 2nd and a 5th. Bay area kids, too. |
This'll last long.
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Which Bay area kids?
Also just saw a replay of the/a crash in the Women's TTT at Worlds, yikes.. I forget which team but ouch! Broken pelvis. Btw since I got Universal Sports back (via Dishworld) I can barely keep up with all the cycling that's on.. |
I saw the video. Looked like the lead rider really overcooked the turn and her front wheel caught one of the feet of the barriers, which caused her to endo and take out a teammate. Clearly rider error but why in the world would you line a course, especially a corner, with barriers that have feet that extend into the road? The Amgen Sacramento stage this year had barriers for the last 200m but they had smooth signage boards all the way to the street surface.
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Originally Posted by mattm
(Post 17155732)
Which Bay area kids?
Also just saw a replay of the/a crash in the Women's TTT at Worlds, yikes.. I forget which team but ouch! Broken pelvis. Btw since I got Universal Sports back (via Dishworld) I can barely keep up with all the cycling that's on..
Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 17155755)
I saw the video. Looked like the lead rider really overcooked the turn and her front wheel caught one of the feet of the barriers, which caused her to endo and take out a teammate. Clearly rider error but why in the world would you line a course, especially a corner, with barriers that have feet that extend into the road? The Amgen Sacramento stage this year had barriers for the last 200m but they had smooth signage boards all the way to the street surface.
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That's my point. Clipped pedal (and pucker factor) v. endo (and broken pelvis)
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when I solo bridged for 15 minutes to zeke's break at Dunnigan hills he told me he was going to win the TT. Liar.
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Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 17155755)
I saw the video. Looked like the lead rider really overcooked the turn and her front wheel caught one of the feet of the barriers, which caused her to endo and take out a teammate. Clearly rider error but why in the world would you line a course, especially a corner, with barriers that have feet that extend into the road? The Amgen Sacramento stage this year had barriers for the last 200m but they had smooth signage boards all the way to the street surface.
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And a 3rd and an 8th - Stevens & Powers.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
(Post 17156493)
when I solo bridged for 15 minutes to zeke's break at Dunnigan hills he told me he was going to win the TT. Liar.
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Originally Posted by valygrl
(Post 17156967)
And a 3rd and an 8th - Stevens & Powers.
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Originally Posted by echappist
(Post 17156855)
essentially the same type of barriers that sent Stybar somersaulting at Eneco. They ought to get rid of these atrocious barriers.
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Mens ITT today.
Wiggo and Martin are basically shoe-ins for 1-2 in some order. Let's say Wiggo 1st; for something different. 3rd up for grabs. I'll take Rohan. |
Wiggins wins. It's interesting to see some change, heh. Also, he says he'll attempt the hour record next year.
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Originally Posted by YMCA
(Post 17157792)
Mens ITT today.
Wiggo and Martin are basically shoe-ins for 1-2 in some order. Let's say Wiggo 1st; for something different. 3rd up for grabs. I'll take Rohan. |
alright, more speculations for the upcoming weekend
For men Caddy: GvA Steakknives: Cancellara Fired: Rui Costa Top riders (no particular order) are: Gerrans, Evans, Valverde, Gilbert, Martin, Navardauskas, Mollema Kwiatokowski seems too tired from a full season's racing, and Uran is probably still recovering from the sickness that made him withdraw from the Vuelta. No Degenkolb as he's recovering from an infection, and Sagan seems to be way out of shape. I'll eat crow if the pie-fueled Slovak wunderkind wins it. For women Caddy: Lizzie Armitstead Steakknives: Shelly Olds Fired: Pauline Ferrand-Prevot Stevens, Powers, Vos, Johansson, Cromwell, Longo Borghini, Worrack |
I think Vos will win both the women's and the men's road race
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For the men, I'm leaning toward Degenkolb. If not him, someone like Vanmarcke could sneak in a win.
For the women (they really only get to race 1/2 the distance of the men??), I'll go Vos. Will be interesting to see how the US Jrs do. Pretty solid team of CA kids in the mix (Maddux, Costa, and Mostov). |
Originally Posted by MDcatV
(Post 17161557)
I think Vos will win both the women's and the men's road race
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Originally Posted by hack
(Post 17155560)
Didn't see a thread (yes there is a whole forum dedicated to it...but whatever) for pro cycling discussion.
With that, US Jr's did quite well in the world championship TT today with a 2nd and a 5th. Bay area kids, too. The Bay area kids are great. This course, and the junior gears are not ideal for strong riders. While the USA took the deserving riders, on this course, maybe sprinters would have been a better choice for this WC RR. Junior road races really do need to have a finishing section that rewards power over aerodynamics and spin. All the US riders getting behind a crash, was one of those things, but again a tougher climbing course (like the US National course) might have helped a lot as they may not have been together behind the crash - at least if the ITT results, and earlier Euro RRs are an indicator. |
Thanks for the video. German kid almost with an early celebration there.
Re: US selection, I'm surprised they didn't pick kids more ideal for the course. Unless they did and the race didn't play out as expected. |
Originally Posted by hack
(Post 17167335)
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Re: US selection, I'm surprised they didn't pick kids more ideal for the course. Unless they did and the race didn't play out as expected. I would like to see a hill finish for RR and not a sprint. 2015 USA Nationals are in Tahoe. Not so much like Richmond, VA which looks more like a Euro Kermesse. Richmond at least has a 500m climb before the end. Next year - Road Circuit (Note the term Circuit). In my opinion the USA kids would do better in a TDF mountain stage race. We (USA) don't spin like most the other countries do and we tend to have harder (more up hill) courses in the US than the Euro juniors do. I think that's OK, as the big money comes later. But its hard to win a junior worlds RR living in the USA and racing under UCI gear restrictions. |
Live stream from the men's race. Phil Liggett is being made to look like a fool by his co-commentator, Jose Been. I wish she talked more and he less (or even better, not at all).
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Anybody watch the women's race yesterday? Armistead had the perfect move with 4 of them coming to finish and none of them worked. I guess they figured if they dragged Vos to the line she was the best sprinter, but can't was an interesting finale.
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Rooting for Tony Martin although it's very very unlikely he'll make it the whole way. edit: ah, that lasted for much lesser than i thought it'd.
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I can't find a feed that's unrestricted in the USA.
anyone know what happend to van Garderen? |
Watching Live amtsport (Italian)
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Nice race by Kwiatkowski, didn't see him holding it off.
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What a finish! I'd have expected the other big names to take more chances though..
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Originally Posted by abhirama
(Post 17168622)
Live stream from the men's race. Phil Liggett is being made to look like a fool by his co-commentator, Jose Been. I wish she talked more and he less (or even better, not at all).
Originally Posted by ShutUpLegs
(Post 17168737)
Anybody watch the women's race yesterday? Armistead had the perfect move with 4 of them coming to finish and none of them worked. I guess they figured if they dragged Vos to the line she was the best sprinter, but can't was an interesting finale.
Originally Posted by abhirama
(Post 17168971)
What a finish! I'd have expected the other big names to take more chances though..
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