Originally Posted by Spoonrobot (Post 20909548)

You know how much I like t-shirts.

I also know how much you dislike most homebrew solutions, but they work so well for me I can't help but post ;)

I printed off a couple of the pics of Evan Murphy's fridge shorts and gave them to my seamstress along with a pair of regular bibs and an old jersey. Couple days later I had my own pair of cargo bibs for a tiny fraction of the cost. I rode with them a bit and turns out I don't actually like that much cargo on my bibs. About one regular size jersey pocket is workable for me, other than that and the shorts start sagging and/or moving around while I climb out of the saddle that the chamois was sliding around and causing irritation. So I had the big pockets removed and just one regular pocket added to most of my shorts. Something to consider if you want to test it out without a big outlay for something that may not work. Or maybe even just DIY it.

Louis Garneau makes an MTB liner short but the pocket is sized for a phone as well as the shorts require an overshort so most likely too warm for you.

Originally Posted by tiredhands (Post 20909552)

This is what I've been wearing now that I'm riding faster and further. I don't have a body shape that's what you'd call "aero," so I'm a huge fan of the cargo bibs. Better than looking like the Michelin Man! I've got one from The Black Bibs and I've got my eyes on a cheap set from Spexcel. I've been wearing cheap "cool tech" tees from Wally World but I might get a MTB jersey for more articulation. My challenge, it seems, will be to find cargo bibs with minimal padding for riding on leather saddles.

Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 20909471)

I don't suppose anyone here has yet bought into the idea put forth by Rapha - cargo bibs with pockets and replacing the jersey with a lightweight and looser fitting technical tee.

The idea has merit completely apart from the company which thought it up and what anyone thinks about their products. A tee is more socially acceptable off the bike but more importantly, bibs are inherently more stable than a jersey and contents would not bounce on rough surfaces as much.

I think it is a great idea for gravel or bikepacking and would be tempted to try them if I thought I would get use out of them. They are rated to 30°C which isn't going to cut it during Georgia summers.

https://road.cc/content/review/24215...rgo-bib-shorts

Cadence made a similar product, the Adventure Bibs, but they seem to be out of business.

Anyone know of something similar?


-Tim-

Originally Posted by tdilf (Post 20909672)

Tim, Mavic has started a new clothing line geared towards casual gravel.
https://shop.mavic.com/en-int/allroa...l/apparel.html

Originally Posted by Spoonrobot (Post 20910039)

Ha I said "my seamstress" like it's the 50s and I'm a man in a gray flannel suit. I just used a regular alteration place in Smyrna that did my job interview suit, but it looks to have closed. The lady made it seem like it was a pretty normal request but she did say the pictures made it much easier. Cost was $20 back in Spring 2017 so it couldn't have taken more than a half hour or so - I think any place that does alterations should be able to accommodate the project.

Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 20909471)

I don't suppose anyone here has yet bought into the idea put forth by Rapha - cargo bibs with pockets and replacing the jersey with a lightweight and looser fitting technical tee.

Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 20910285)

People seem to be wound up tighter than a banjo string lately.

The slightest thing sets people off and nobody knows how to have a conversation any more.

Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 20910548)

Back to Tim's original question:

I haven't tried cargo bibshorts, but I suspect that it would feel funny to have stuff in such pockets. Spoonrobot's feedback kind of confirms that. If I really need to carry more stuff, I will add a handlebar bag or top tube bag to my bike.

I have thought about those high-tech fabric t-shirts, though. Rapha is not the only company that makes one, though theirs looks nice - if I can snag one at a good sale price, I will probably get it eventually. I mean, what the heck...I do most of my training rides solo, on a pretty heavy bike (26+l bs) with a handlebar bag to carry plenty of stuff; what's the harm in wearing a less-than-aero shirt? It might make the ride slower, but it'll be an even better workout.

Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 20910663)

The thing about getting a handlebar bag is that I'll already be carrying frame, saddle and bar bags with tent, pad, quilt, stove, food, etc.

The Rapha technical tee interests me because it is made of the same fabric as their Pro Flyweight jersey which I own. It wicks and dries instantly and I can actually feel evaporative cooling on my chest as I ride in hot weather. It is uncanny. Any technical tee will do though but yeah, if the Rapha goes on sale then I'll consider it.


-Tim-

Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel (Post 20910308)

I’m mad at Timothy too :lol: I don’t know why? And yes I’m just kidding.

Originally Posted by TimothyH (Post 20915017)

I met someone yesterday with the Rapha carbo bibs.

He carries his food for day rides in the side pockets and says he loves them.

Originally Posted by ericzamora (Post 20915281)

I don't see the need to pay close to $300