Road Cycling Destinations?
Hi Folks:
After spending a few days of fruitless googlery, I decided to ask the people who know: Where are the true destinations to travel to for serious road cycling (US and abroad). Sure, it's enough to have a road, and a bike, who needs more than that. Sure there are wonderful package tours that will free you from all logistical worry. But really some places are better to just go and train in (this means getting there!) than others. I have criteria: 1) Good rides (of course) in varied terrain (at least some real climbing), well maintained low-traffic roads 2) Local bike shop(s) that rent/service road bikes (name one?) 3) Nearby airport or other transportation (where do you fly into?) 4) Good food and accommodation, not too expensive 5) Stuff for your family to do while you're out riding (semi optional) 6) Drivers who won't kill you. Cheers, Jon |
I'll give an obvious example anybody can dream about (or do, it's not that hard):
Bourg d'Oisans, France 1) Good rides (of course) in varied terrain (at least some real climbing), well maintained low-traffic roads Awesome road rides of every type, they even have a replica of the Alpe du Zwift! 2) Local bike shop(s) that rent/service road bikes (name one?) https://www.cyclesetsports.com/fr/co...velo-alpe-huez 3) Nearby airport or other transportation (where do you fly into?) Fly to Grenoble, train or bus to Bourg d'Oisans (~1 hr). 4) Good food and accommodation, not too expensive It's a ski resort, might be pricey for that kind of room. 5) Stuff for your family to do while you're out riding (semi optional) Festivals of some kind nearly every week, farmers market, bric-a-brac, shopping, non-cycling sports. 6) Drivers who won't kill you. Again, this is France: drivers are more likely to cheer you on than run you off the road. Many roads (Including the Alpe d'Huez) are closed to motorized traffic on specific days of the week. Cheers, Jon |
Natchez Trace Parkway.
444 miles. Bucket list item I've yet to do. Start up near Nashville and wind up in Natchez MS seems the logical way to go. I live next to it near the 100mi marker. I've met a lot of people doing that ride. The last three groups doing it backwards. But whatever! 6) Drivers who won't kill you. Most won't kill you. A few will annoy you and make you shout bad word and gesture obscenely at them. https://natcheztracetravel.com/biking-the-trace.html Mount Blue Sky (formerly Mt. Evans) in Colorado. You can start off near Evergreen or Idaho Springs. Both easy to get to from Denver. Or go up to Echo Lake and just make it a short ride. The views and vistas are tremendous once you get over the tree line. Plan on it being self supported or have a SAG vehicle. I heard Echo Lake Lodge is now closed. https://pjammcycling.com/climb/50.Mt-Evans https://www.mybicycleroutes.com/xmtevansinfopage.html |
Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 23194618)
Natchez Trace Parkway.
444 miles. Bucket list item I've yet to do. Start up near Nashville and wind up in Natchez MS seems the logical way to go. I live next to it near the 100mi marker. I've met a lot of people doing that ride. The last three groups doing it backwards. But whatever! 6) Drivers who won't kill you. Most won't kill you. A few will annoy you and make you shout bad word and gesture obscenely at them. https://natcheztracetravel.com/biking-the-trace.html Mount Blue Sky (formerly Mt. Evans) in Colorado. You can start off near Evergreen or Idaho Springs. Both easy to get to from Denver. Or go up to Echo Lake and just make it a short ride. The views and vistas are tremendous once you get over the tree line. Plan on it being self supported or have a SAG vehicle. I heard Echo Lake Lodge is now closed. https://pjammcycling.com/climb/50.Mt-Evans https://www.mybicycleroutes.com/xmtevansinfopage.html |
Originally Posted by WaveyGravey
(Post 23194624)
I want to ride the Natchez. Are motel/hotel accommodations conveniently located along the route? I/m not a camper. Thanks
In the link I gave there are links to such. And googling will find you tons of info. |
Seasonally (like now, for instance), Tucson in Arizona is pretty nice. They've had a cycling emphasis, with bike paths, bike lanes, etc. for many years now. It's a popular spring training destination. Mt Lemmon, Kitt Peak, Saguaro National Park (East & West). The airport used to be one of the nicer ones, but I've only driven, lately. Avoid in summer, at least during heat waves.
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There are lots of cycling options in Napa. Day trips. winery tours, week long excursions, etc.
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San Francisco Bay Area - IMO, some of the best road cycling in the world - 4 major mountain climbs, rides to the coast from Silicon Valley, Napa / Sonoma wine country and more.
Tuscany Italy - great roads and food. Mallorca Spain - cycling Mecca many pro teams train there. I have been there 4 times and going again this year. Spain - Girona Tuscon - Mount Lemmon - I have done it twice and sort of a meh. Tucson has rough roads and may have wind. It sounds great to read about but not so great once one is there. |
Originally Posted by Ubie
(Post 23195573)
There are lots of cycling options in Napa. Day trips. winery tours, week long excursions, etc.
On the other hand, nearby Sonoma County has much more to offer a cyclist, on quieter roads. |
Originally Posted by Hermes
(Post 23195586)
Tucson has rough roads and may have wind. It sounds great to read about but not so great once one is there.
The city and/or surrounding Pima County) infrastructure is surprisingly on top of road maintenance, such that invariably when I find myself complaining about a crappy section of pavement, within ~1 year that section has been resurfaced and is now a lovely section of pavement. It's almost uncanny...but it's one of the things I love about riding around Tucson. Can't do anything about the wind. |
If you want some epic climbs the Eastern Sierra Nevada mountains and the White mountains will test the best climbers. Had some fun trips there with friends.
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Originally Posted by big john
(Post 23197915)
If you want some epic climbs the Eastern Sierra Nevada mountains and the White mountains will test the best climbers. Had some fun trips there with friends.
Markleeville is another option, although the lodging and dining there is pretty minimal. Great rides, though. You can also stay at Stateline. |
Originally Posted by terrymorse
(Post 23198034)
Yes, this! Epic climbs. Base camp in Mammoth Lakes -- lodging prices are cheaper in summer, and some altitude training.
Markleeville is another option, although the lodging and dining there is pretty minimal. Great rides, though. You can also stay at Stateline. Have you done the Mammoth Grand Fondo? |
Personally, I've had great experiences in Southern Spain, France, and the big Island of Hawaii. I'm pretty sure those destinations meet all your needs.
Somewhat less exotic, but I've had some great rides in Montana and the Canadian Rockies - the Icefields Parkway is a fun ride. This site has some inspiring information: roads to ride Edit to add: Palm Desert California is also pretty bike friendly. |
Bob_Ross Sorry for being harsh on Tucson road conditions...maybe too harsh.
So better yet...maybe...here is a video from a training camp put on by an operator in Tucson where my wife and I had a great time and would do it again with that group of people (customers and operator personnel) anywhere in the US or International - Totally fun and screw the roads and wind they were immaterial. The riding was hard and we had some hitters in the group. Fantastic time and it showcases Tucson scenery. The first three riders up Mount Lemmon, including my my wife, killed it. It was a fun climb but hard and long. The video was produced by the operator, Cycling House, that features the campers, employees and Tucson terrain and one can see the road surfaces - sometimes and judge for oneself. |
Originally Posted by big john
(Post 23198052)
We've stayed in Lone Pine and Bishop on trips.
Originally Posted by big john
(Post 23198052)
Have you done the Mammoth Grand Fondo?
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Originally Posted by Hermes
(Post 23198057)
Bob_Ross Sorry for being harsh on Tucson road conditions...maybe too harsh.
So better yet...maybe...here is a video from a training camp put on by an operator in Tucson where my wife and I had a great time and would do it again with that group of people (customers and operator personnel) anywhere in the US or International - Totally fun and screw the roads and wind they were immaterial. The riding was hard and we had some hitters in the group. Fantastic time and it showcases Tucson scenery. The first three riders up Mount Lemmon, including my my wife, killed it. It was a fun climb but hard and long. The video was produced by the operator, Cycling House, that features the campers, employees and Tucson terrain and one can see the road surfaces - sometimes and judge for oneself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ghRgt6eGY |
Originally Posted by terrymorse
(Post 23198071)
They're not high enough for altitude training. I stayed at Glacier Lodge above Big Pine a couple times. One step above camping. Another possibility is Rock Creek Lakes Resort. Cabins are decent, restaurant serves good basic fare. Pretty high at almost 10,000 feet.
No, never have. The only organized ride I did out there was the Everest Challenge, now defunct. My friend Dave on the way up to Sabrina. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d77421356a.jpg |
Originally Posted by Hermes
(Post 23195586)
Mallorca Spain - cycling Mecca many pro teams train there. I have been there 4 times and going again this year.
Southern Spain - Girona . |
Originally Posted by big john
(Post 23198108)
Bob Levin on that video is a friend, just rode with him last Sunday. He lives out of the area now but was in town visiting his kid. Nice man and can climb with the younger goats when he's on his game.
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Originally Posted by WaveyGravey
(Post 23194624)
I want to ride the Natchez. Are motel/hotel accommodations conveniently located along the route? I/m not a camper. Thanks
The 2 places I would definitely recommend staying would be French Camp, which is right on the Trace, and the Marriot in Florence Alabama. Awesome bar, often with live music, and memorabilia from many HOF artists who stayed there while recording in Muscle Shoals. |
Also, while the Natchez Trace is nice, I would place the Blue Ridge Parkway/ Skyline Drive way above the Natchez Trace
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
(Post 23198034)
Yes, this! Epic climbs. Base camp in Mammoth Lakes -- lodging prices are cheaper in summer, and some altitude training.
Markleeville is another option, although the lodging and dining there is pretty minimal. Great rides, though. You can also stay at Stateline. I agree about staying in Stateline/Meyers/South lake. You can ride from there or it's a short drive down to Markleeville. Non-cycling family can be plenty busy around Tahoe for a couple days. If the OP really wants to get some climbing in on a supported event, show up in July to ride the Death Ride. Another option is to stay at Bear Valley. Besides being next to Pac grade and Ebbett's pass, there's a bunch of hiking around there too. |
Originally Posted by Ubie
(Post 23195573)
There are lots of cycling options in Napa. Day trips. winery tours, week long excursions, etc.
I lived up there for seven years and getting hit on a clear weekday on a straight and wide road at 3 in the afternoon ended my cycling until I moved to San Diego. |
Originally Posted by jesnow
(Post 23194577)
Hi Folks:
After spending a few days of fruitless googlery, I decided to ask the people who know: Where are the true destinations to travel to for serious road cycling (US and abroad). Sure, it's enough to have a road, and a bike, who needs more than that. Sure there are wonderful package tours that will free you from all logistical worry. But really some places are better to just go and train in (this means getting there!) than others. I have criteria: Cheers, Jon The pro teams know those rides and so do you ! I had the opportunity to ride some of those with the Cervelo Test Team back in 2009. I did not ride with the team, just as a guest of that Team. For us non-pros, they used the Brits to be our guides, bike mechanics, massage guys, accommodations and all. I would ask Gerard Vroomen and he was there with us. He would know which bike travel guys to use. And I think this is not going to be "cheap". But an experience because the Brits will be very good riders. You may not know much about Gerard, but he's Dutch and knows much about Europe. |
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