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Ald1 12-14-18 07:21 AM

Advice from Florida Please
 
Maybe too late this year but I want to start wintering in Southern Florida, renting somewhere Jan. Feb. We have friends in West Palm, and Sarasota areas so either side OK. First, I'm aware of the bad reputation cycling in Fla. has so whats your take and the best cycling areas? Also any first hand experience with trusted rental agencies? Any input from the "natives" greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Juan Foote 12-16-18 08:54 AM

I would say quite the opposite about the Tampa to Sarasota area in regard to cycling. I have had excellent times and results in respect to both. Longboat Key and surrounding is an awesome ride. Terra Ceia is amazing.
Look up a group called History Bike Tampa. They do some really cool rides, every other month now. Great way to see and learn some neat stuff about the area as well as a good intro to the bike scene. Downtown Tampa and the Ebor area are VERY bike friendly IME. I also know there are some really good trails a bit more interior. I am sure a few posters will sound off regarding that.

joesch 12-16-18 11:14 AM

The Villages in FL has many cycling clubs and is a good area for riding safely as lot less drivers of cars and lots more drives of golf carts and bikes.

Here is one example: Florida Bicycle Association's 2016 Bike Club of the Year! ~ #1 Ranked Cycling Club in BikeJournal.com since 2017!

https://www.slbikeclub.org/content.aspx?sl=1059434340

Ald1 12-16-18 12:51 PM

Thanks Guys! Keep it coming. Leanig toward the Clearwater/Tampa area as we have enjoyed going to spring training there in the past.

Baldy1953 12-16-18 04:33 PM

Gainesville has a large cycling club and there are lots of lightly traveled roads around that area also. Has some hills also. Can be a bit challenging. The villages is full of retirees and they drive crazy sometimes down there. further south around Sebring area is nice and quiet also.

joesch 12-17-18 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Baldy1953 (Post 20707290)
Gainesville has a large cycling club and there are lots of lightly traveled roads around that area also. Has some hills also. Can be a bit challenging. The villages is full of retirees and they drive crazy sometimes down there. further south around Sebring area is nice and quiet also.

Yes, I had a few retired drivers get bent out of shape when I was on the road, not the cart/walk/ride, path. The roads are plenty wide enough for drivers and bikes.

rutan74 12-17-18 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Ald1 (Post 20704217)
Maybe too late this year but I want to start wintering in Southern Florida, renting somewhere Jan. Feb. We have friends in West Palm, and Sarasota areas so either side OK. First, I'm aware of the bad reputation cycling in Fla. has so whats your take and the best cycling areas? Also any first hand experience with trusted rental agencies? Any input from the "natives" greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Not a native Floridian but I just got back, well last month, from doing the Horrible Hundred in Clermont. Clermont is just SE of the Villages and believe it or not, it is quite hilly there. At least for Florida I guess. Not flat at all and there is quite a variation of hills to flat. Area was close to Orlando but was not totally built up. Very small town but the cycling in this area is really nice. Sugarloaf Mountain, if you can call it that is like the highest point in Florida. That was a very steep climb to the top. I know there is a cycling camp in December that is based out of Clermont so it does appear to be a decent place to cycle. Just as an example, we did 4800 feet of climbing on that century and looking at a bunch of other centuries all over Florida, it is hard to find one that has more than 1000 feet of climbing. So this area is not typical Florida flat.

Anyway, it is close to Tampa and really close to Orlando and as I said, the Villages are just a few clicks away too.

john

Juan Foote 12-18-18 02:57 PM

I was rather surprised that RonH hasn't sounded off in this thread yet. I checked to see whether he was posting and his last was back in Nov. around Tgiving. Hope he is well.

OldTryGuy 12-19-18 02:09 AM

As mentioned, very nice Florida riding north of Rt. 4. Sugarloaf front and back as repeats = a great workout. :thumb: :thumb: Things can be somewhat flat (boring) below. My ride yesterday .....

https://www.relive.cc/view/2024007367

slow but enjoyable

KraneXL 12-19-18 03:38 AM

First, the difference between Florida's east/west coast is night and day. Second, its a big state. There are people all over who cycle just fine all year long and all their lives without any serious issues.

I personally would avoid high-speed rural roads which can be dangerous no matter where you live. The many coastal paths and trails -- i.e. state parks -- in the state are you best bet. Although mountain bike train in Florida sounds like an oxymoron.

For the record, Florida has the most pleasant weather in the U.S. including Hawaii, this time of year.

Ald1 12-19-18 04:51 AM

Thanks. Found a possiby rental in Dunedin. Trails look great. Your take on the night/day difference in east/west coast?

KraneXL 12-19-18 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Ald1 (Post 20710857)
Thanks. Found a possiby rental in Dunedin. Trails look great. Your take on the night/day difference in east/west coast?

Basically development. The largest cities and most dense populations in the state are dispersed along the east coast. But there's also a noticeable environmental difference between the feel of the Atlantic coast as compared to the Gulf coast.

The Gulf coast has white sandy beaches with abundant native flora and fauna and dune from a Florida of yore. It more like something you would have seen had you visited the state hundreds or thousands of years ago. Or at least the closest you can get to that unspoiled experience.

Those two unique aspects are some of Florida's greatest asset. It also has the most coastline of any state in the contiguous U.S.

Ald1 12-21-18 05:13 AM

Thanks KraneXL,
My thoughts too. Always enjoyed the Gulf side a bit more than the Atlantic but as you said they offer unique aspects and I'll add experiences.

DrDyno 12-23-18 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Ald1 (Post 20710857)
Thanks. Found a possiby rental in Dunedin. Trails look great. Your take on the night/day difference in east/west coast?

I live in St. Petersburg about 20 miles south of Dunedin. My usual haunt is the "Pinellas Trail." (Pinellas is our county and the Pinellas Trail is currently 38 miles long.) I'll attach a link with a map and you'll notice it goes right through Dunedin. From there, you can ride it south all the way to St. Petersburg or, north around Lake Tarpon. Although the map ends on the east side of Lake Tarpon, you can continue on a riding path all the way back to Palm Harbor. Several beautiful parks off the trail, as well. In my experience, Florida is a great state to ride in.

Oh... in my experience the difference between the east coast and west coast is... the east coast is like New York City and the west coast is like Mineral Wells, TX!

Pinellas Trail - Maplets

KraneXL 12-23-18 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Ald1 (Post 20713722)
Thanks KraneXL,
My thoughts too. Always enjoyed the Gulf side a bit more than the Atlantic but as you said they offer unique aspects and I'll add experiences.

In the vernacular of the state's founders:

Soy a sus órdenes***

Ald1 12-24-18 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by DrDyno (Post 20716404)
I live in St. Petersburg about 20 miles south of Dunedin. My usual haunt is the "Pinellas Trail." (Pinellas is our county and the Pinellas Trail is currently 38 miles long.) I'll attach a link with a map and you'll notice it goes right through Dunedin. From there, you can ride it south all the way to St. Petersburg or, north around Lake Tarpon. Although the map ends on the east side of Lake Tarpon, you can continue on a riding path all the way back to Palm Harbor. Several beautiful parks off the trail, as well. In my experience, Florida is a great state to ride in.

Oh... in my experience the difference between the east coast and west coast is... the east coast is like New York City and the west coast is like Mineral Wells, TX!

Pinellas Trail - Maplets

Can you get a good workout riding the trails? I.E. keep a good pace with few stops?

OldTryGuy 12-24-18 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Ald1 (Post 20717161)
Can you get a good workout riding the trails? I.E. keep a good pace with few stops?

Read the RULES, Trails by me have 15mph limit.

Pinellas County, Florida - Park & Conservation Resources - Pinellas County Trail Guide

RonH 12-24-18 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Juan Foote (Post 20710127)
I was rather surprised that RonH hasn't sounded off in this thread yet. I checked to see whether he was posting and his last was back in Nov. around Tgiving. Hope he is well.

I'm still around but have been lying low. I've stopped "inviting" folks to FL, especially to ride the Withlacoochee Trail, because it seems that some of them haven't turned out to be the friendliest of folks. :(
The Withlacoochee Trail isn't as far south as Sarasota or WPB but its a great ride. It's 46 miles of nice relaxing scenery with lots of stops for water, restrooms, and even a few eating places. The southern half goes thru very rural areas with lakes, horse farms and small towns.

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/me...loral-city.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/www.floridarambler...size=600%2C336

I've seen this guy with his "wagon" on the trail a few times.
https://i2.wp.com/www.floridarambler...rail-wagon.jpg

This is in downtown Inverness.
https://i0.wp.com/www.floridarambler...il-inverne.jpg

DrDyno 12-24-18 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Ald1 (Post 20717161)
Can you get a good workout riding the trails? I.E. keep a good pace with few stops?

Absolutely! Major roads have overpasses which you get to climb and race back down the other side. Most minor roads have stop signs and/or very little traffic. The trail itself is wide enough to accommodate three riders abreast (although I don't recommend that) along with a smaller pedestrian path to one side. I probably average 13-15 MPH and get passed regularly by guys (and gals) training at 20+ MPH. I have ridden hundreds of miles on the trail and have only had to come to a stop occasionally for minor roads (although, there is one major overpass closed in the Clearwater area that you have to wait for a light change... by then a stop is welcomed!) . I also recommend a bell to let slower riders know you're coming past.

The biggest problem is coming through Clearwater. The trail ends at a busy intersection and you have to find it again on the other side. It's an almost straight shot but confusing the first time you encounter it.

You won't be disappointed... it's a great ride!

KraneXL 12-24-18 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by RonH (Post 20717324)




I've seen this guy with his "wagon" on the trail a few times.
https://i2.wp.com/www.floridarambler...rail-wagon.jpg

This is in downtown Inverness.

Is that Wilford Brimley? :foo:



https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...IyQ65iRHi_hGw7

wnl256 01-01-19 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by Ald1 (Post 20717161)
Can you get a good workout riding the trails? I.E. keep a good pace with few stops?

Depends on where along the trail you ride. When I visit my typical ride includes the stretch from north of Palm Harbor in to Tarpon Springs. On that stretch you can ride your own pace with few interruptions (occasional stop signs from crossing streets). But through Palm Harbor itself there's a stop sign every few hundred feet. Someone else already mentioned how challenging it is to ride the trail through central Clearwater.

I will also say that there is an abundance of bicycle lanes in Pinellas County (at least compared to what I'm used to in suburban Atlanta) and getting around the area is pretty easy even where there aren't dedicated lanes. If it isn't too windy you can enjoy the trail on the Courtney Campbell Causeway. That's about 10 miles of uninterrupted MUP from Clearwater to Tampa with a nice little hill (bridge) in the middle. But you do have to share it with the walkers, joggers, and roller bladers. RonH already mentioned the Withlacoochee. There's also the Suncoast Trail in Pasco and Hernando. It's a long stretch with few interruptions, but runs alongside a tollway so it isn't as nice of an environment as the Pinellas trail.

Tbobx 01-02-19 11:16 PM

Sarasota and Bradenton
 
I can recommend the Sarasota-Bradenton area for biking. There’s a fairly active bike community with several clubs that welcome snowbird visitors for a ride and plenty of bike lanes and backroads to ride. Sarasota has the Legacy Trail that goes south the Venice and Northport. Biking is popular as the residents just passed a bond measure by a wide margin to extend the Legacy Trail into downtown Sarasota. It’s a very nice paved rail trail. There’s also plenty of good riding on Longboat Key and Anna Maria Island, the barrier beaches. Check the wind speed and direction before leaving on a ride.

Ald1 01-04-19 07:50 AM

Any thoughts on this area? Isla del Sol, Saint Petersburg, FL, Found a place at a very reasonable rate. Thanks?

DrDyno 01-04-19 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by Ald1 (Post 20732072)
Any thoughts on this area? Isla del Sol, Saint Petersburg, FL, Found a place at a very reasonable rate. Thanks?

Isla Del Sol is on the Pinellas Bayway, several miles west of St. Petersburg, proper. The Pinellas Bay Way is a four lane road with light traffic that will take you south to Fort Desoto Park. The park has about ten miles of paved roadway which is a favorite of bicyclists, along with several off road trails. As long as you don't require hills, this is an excellent area for bicyclists.

edman610 01-05-19 04:37 PM

Hi folks! I live up in NY, but one ride I've been really wanting to try is down the coast to Key West. I'm looking for advice on a route from West Palm Beach down to the keys.

Any thoughts, tips, suggested routes, areas to avoid, would be very helpful. Looking to do this solo, so I was thinking of flying into PBI, either renting or bringing my bike, then riding mostly A1A down to FLL, then from FLL down by Dania, Hollywood beaches, A1A into south beach, then MIA via Brickell, S Miami ave, old cutler rd, SW87th, SW107th to SW112th, by Homestead AFB to speedway, SW137th to card sound rd, then on to the keys. I attached a link to the route.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/29127790

Also looking for suggestions on where to stay, etc, since I'll only have a pair of shorts, some shirts and flip flops besides bike gear.

Thank you all in advance!

/Ed


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