Originally Posted by sumgy
(Post 21144935)
Truck cannot kill cyclist by itself usually.
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How about "Dentist killed by Soccer Mom"? "Landscaper runs over cycling schoolteacher" ? Lots of ways both parties in a story can be represented by a person and not imbalanced where only one is a type of person, the other is a type of vehicle.
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"Cyclist killed by drunk driver" and "cyclist killed by runaway truck" imply vastly different kinds of things - one puts criminal guilt squarely on a driver who may not even have been convicted, while the other actively seeks to absolve a driver (the truck just ran away...) who may yet be charged with criminal negligence or manslaughter
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Person on bicycle killed by person not in control of car.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
(Post 21145053)
How about "Dentist killed by Soccer Mom"? "Landscaper runs over cycling schoolteacher" ? Lots of ways both parties in a story can be represented by a person and not imbalanced where only one is a type of person, the other is a type of vehicle.
The occupation of the perpetrator or the victim is not usually considered noteworthy enough to be headline-worthy. An exception might be something like "Cyclist Killed by Senator" or "Judge Killed on Bicycle". But, those are all much different from a headline of the type, "Cyclist Killed by a Person Driving a Truck", which contains information that is unnecessary.
Originally Posted by bipedalconsumer
(Post 21145063)
"Cyclist killed by drunk driver" and "cyclist killed by runaway truck" imply vastly different kinds of things - one puts criminal guilt squarely on a driver who may not even have been convicted, while the other actively seeks to absolve a driver (the truck just ran away...) who may yet be charged with criminal negligence or manslaughter
Yes, those hypothetical headlines are different, as they contain additional information that likely would be considered important and headline-worthy. My only point is that you don't see headlines like "Cyclist Killed by a Person Driving a Truck" because headlines are meant to short and to-the-point, and they only contain the most important information. It has nothing to do with media bias, as suggested earlier. |
In some way or other it seems that drivers have always been given a special benefit of the doubt when operating big deadly machines - I suppose you never needed specialized training to ride a horse either
There is probably a strongly reasonable argument for suspending drivers license after one or two "accidents" But I guess barring a person from driving is considered (and often is) a huge imposition, especially in America |
Originally Posted by tomato coupe
(Post 21144946)
That's right. That's why "Cyclist Killed by Truck" is sufficient. The primary goal of headlines is to be short and to the point.
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Originally Posted by Metieval
(Post 21145319)
"Cyclist killed by Driver" is short and to the point also.
"Cyclist Killed by Driver" or "Cyclist Killed by Truck" |
Originally Posted by tomato coupe
(Post 21145323)
Sure, but which conveys more information?
"Cyclist Killed by Driver" or "Cyclist Killed by Truck" |
Originally Posted by tomato coupe
(Post 21145323)
Sure, but which conveys more information?
"Cyclist Killed by Driver" or "Cyclist Killed by Truck" The way you argue it, drunk drivers don't kill people either, because their truck did? I just want truthful information. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by Metieval
(Post 21145327)
well a truck doesn't kill anyone ever. A person driving it can kill someone. A person being negligent in parking it can lead to the possibility of it rolling.
The way you argue it, drunk drivers don't kill people either, because their truck did? |
Originally Posted by tomato coupe
(Post 21145333)
Not at all. If a cyclist is killed by a drunk driver, the headline likely would be "Cyclist Killed by Drunk Driver". That conveys the most important detail. "Drunk driver kills cyclist" 4 words vs 6 words. If you are going to set standards, then hold yourself to the standards you set!!! Please. Enough with the wishy washy BS |
Originally Posted by Metieval
(Post 21145339)
I thought you likes short and to the point?
"Drunk driver kills cyclist" 4 words vs 6 words. If you are going to set standards, then hold yourself to the standards you set!!! Please. Enough with the wishy washy BS |
Originally Posted by tomato coupe
(Post 21145341)
Sure, that's better. (But your counting skills need some work.)
I'm not trying to set any standards. I'm using hypothetical headlines to illustrate a point. |
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