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SundayNiagara 08-27-19 11:41 AM

Buying from UK?
 
I've been away for quite some tie, but I've noticed one can no longer purchase certain items from Ribble, etc.? When & why did this happen?

Thanks

indyfabz 08-27-19 12:03 PM

Manufacturer restrictions on sales to the U.S.

:popcorn

SundayNiagara 08-27-19 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 21094915)
Manufacturer restrictions on sales to the U.S.

:popcorn

Who started this ball rolling?

indyfabz 08-27-19 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by SundayNiagara (Post 21094924)
Who started this ball rolling?

I have no idea. I don't buy things from the U.K.

noodle soup 08-27-19 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by SundayNiagara (Post 21094924)
Who started this ball rolling?

LBS from the US

mstateglfr 08-27-19 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by SundayNiagara (Post 21094924)
Who started this ball rolling?

SRAM with their implementation of a ban a handful of years ago?
Local shops that were finally able to convince Shimano to restrict shipping?
And more.

Like much in a global economy, there isnt just 1 singular answer.

SundayNiagara 08-27-19 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 21094962)
SRAM with their implementation of a ban a handful of years ago?
Local shops that were finally able to convince Shimano to restrict shipping?
And more.

Like much in a global economy, there isnt just 1 singular answer.

I remember SRAM doing this.

Marcus_Ti 08-27-19 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 21094950)
LBS from the US

More like LBS distributors like QBP.

My own LBS doesn't care if you buy a group from them, they make next to money on the sale--and the consumer can usually find it cheaper elsewhere and get it faster. LBSes are too local and small to have any lobbying power against SRAM/Campag/Shimano/etc. What is more, if the consumer bails on a group order---the LBS is then stuck holding parts they probably won't be able to sell.

indyfabz 08-27-19 12:44 PM

It's not the end of the world.

noodle soup 08-27-19 12:47 PM

Either way, I don’t really care who’s responsible.

Now that the pricing has changed, LBSs have a fair chance at selling components again.

Marcus_Ti 08-27-19 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 21094979)
Either way, I don’t really care who’s responsible.

Now that the pricing has changed, LBSs have a fair chance at selling components again.

Not really. Virtually no one builds bikes from parts. Bikes are overwhelmingly assemblies pre-compiled and shipped in boxes for finish-assembly at what is mostly a dealership. They won't sell more product. Certainly not enough to make a dent on a balance sheet. What do you wager an LBS orders groups versus sells a floor-bike? 1-in-10? 1-in-50? 1-in-100?

LBSes aren't going to "win". Consumers won't either. I'm not sure who actually does. I suppose whomever denies warranty claims at Shimano/Campagnolo/SRAM-USA because consumers need RMA on parts they bought out of country.

noodle soup 08-27-19 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti (Post 21094987)
Not really. Virtually no one builds bikes from parts. Bikes are overwhelmingly assemblies pre-compiled and shipped in boxes for finish-assembly at what is mostly a dealership. They won't sell more product. Certainly not enough to make a dent on a balance sheet. What do you wager an LBS orders groups versus sells a floor-bike? 1-in-10? 1-in-50? 1-in-100?

LBSes aren't going to "win". Consumers won't either. I'm not sure who actually does. I suppose whomever denies warranty claims at Shimano/Campagnolo/SRAM-USA because consumers need RMA on parts they bought out of country.

You’re probably right. After 15+ years of getting screwed over by the big 3 component manufacturers, there’s probably nothing that can help them now.

datlas 08-27-19 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 21094976)
It's the end of the world!!

fixed

em_525 08-27-19 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 21094915)
Manufacturer restrictions on sales to the U.S.

:popcorn

That's definitely the single largest reason.

SundayNiagara 08-27-19 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by em_525 (Post 21095085)
That's definitely the single largest reason.

I wish there was a dislike button. :(

noodle soup 08-27-19 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by SundayNiagara (Post 21095094)
I wish there was a dislike button. :(

The manufacturers were screwing US bike shops for decades, now they stopped, and you are angry with who!

SundayNiagara 08-27-19 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 21095110)
The manufacturers were screwing US bike shops for decades, now they stopped, and you are angry with who!

As my late used car salesman friend used to say: "Its ALWAYS the price."

noodle soup 08-27-19 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by SundayNiagara (Post 21095121)
As my late used car salesman friend used to say: "Its ALWAYS the price."

True.

This is the price now.

You pay the price, or you don’t get the goods.

for 15+ years, the LBS got screwed.

Now you might have to pay retail.

#dealwithit

Sy Reene 08-27-19 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 21095110)
The manufacturers were screwing US bike shops for decades, now they stopped, and you are angry with who!

The preference of course would have been that the manufacturers fix their stoopid distribution model, so that the the US retailers could sell at the same price levels as the UK dealers and make the same margin as evidently makes them satisfied.

DaveSSS 08-27-19 04:39 PM

The last time that I bought a bike in an LBS was back in the 90's. After that, every bike I've owned was built from with the frame of my choice and Campy parts. You can still get Campy parts form Euro sources, but the prices are no longer that much cheaper, if you find the right online seller.

UsedToBeFaster 09-04-19 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by SundayNiagara (Post 21094881)
I've been away for quite some tie, but I've noticed one can no longer purchase certain items from Ribble, etc.? When & why did this happen?

Thanks

What exactly cant be bought now?

Earlier this year i bought wheelset, 5800 groupset etc.

SundayNiagara 09-04-19 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by UsedToBeFaster (Post 21107143)
What exactly cant be bought now?

Earlier this year i bought wheelset, 5800 groupset etc.

Go look now.

UsedToBeFaster 09-04-19 07:47 AM

Sigh ... I already did
 

Originally Posted by SundayNiagara (Post 21107175)
Go look now.

I already did, and everything I bought from Merlins (5800 groups, Fulcrum wheels, 7000 RD, Shimano wheelset etc.) I can still add to my cart and get all the way to putting in my credit card.

If your going to start these threads then add in some supporting detail!

SundayNiagara 09-04-19 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by UsedToBeFaster (Post 21107246)
I already did, and everything I bought from Merlins (5800 groups, Fulcrum wheels, 7000 RD, Shimano wheelset etc.) I can still add to my cart and get all the way to putting in my credit card.

If your going to start these threads then add in some supporting detail!

Look at Dura Ace.

Rides4Beer 09-04-19 08:13 AM

Merlin still sells Shimano, my r8020 groupset will be here today (purchased on Saturday!), best price I could find anywhere online or in person. I love my LBS, have bought a bike from them and will continue to send plenty of business their way, but I also have a budget.


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