Winter tips for salt clean up
For the winter riders out there - how do you clean your bike once it gets all splattered with salty crud?
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Leave it out for the moose to come lick it?
OK, actually, I wait for a warm day and hit the bike with a bucket of water, dish detergent, and a brush. But we don't have to salt here very much, or very frequently. And I did see a moose once! (and it was licking salt off a sidewalk). |
There's another thread here on the topic of washing bikes. My idea was to get a $20 pressurized water spray and hose it off outdoors.
Another idea I just had was to go to a car wash and borrow their hose, if it's running. But that might be somewhat expensive? Not to mention you'd be competing with autos. |
I have a brush soaking in a tub of windshield washer fluid and a pressurized spray jug.
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Originally Posted by Daniel4
(Post 21310426)
I have a brush soaking in a tub of windshield washer fluid and a pressurized spray jug.
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think I'm gonna get a 2nd brush just for the wheels & tires, or use the current brush for just the drive train
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I've done just a couple watering cans full of fresh water. Better than nothing.
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Car wash. It’s not a problem. Just don’t pull the trigger when washing around the bearings, although GCN did a thing on power washing and they didn’t find that it harmed the bearings at all even with 2 minutes of direct close spray.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 21314291)
Car wash. It’s not a problem. Just don’t pull the trigger when washing around the bearings, although GCN did a thing on power washing and they didn’t find that it harmed the bearings at all even with 2 minutes of direct close spray.
Although an effective way to clean your bike, you might not feel like doing it everyday. And after the car wash, you'll still have to ride it back home - through all the salt and slush that you just washed off. |
Originally Posted by Daniel4
(Post 21314715)
Although an effective way to clean your bike, you might not feel like doing it everyday. And after the car wash, you'll still have to ride it back home - through all the salt and slush that you just washed off.
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Rust in chain is the worst.
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Originally Posted by Hexar
(Post 21321391)
Rust in chain is the worst.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 21316326)
You don't have to do it everyday. I wouldn't wash my bike at home every day. That's just asking for things to be frozen when you go out to ride it tomorrow. I probably wouldn't wash it every week, either.
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I'm on my third or fourth new chain at this point. I just swap it out at the annual tune-up and move on. Lasts about one year due to heavy usage and environmental factors.
I think the weather has an impact. here in the North East US, we get some cold, some snow, the roads get salted/sanded when it snows, and... the sea air also contains sea-salt and that sea-air can react with a metal bicycle chain. But that might be different where you all live. It just depends on your climate conditions 300th post here .... :speedy: |
Originally Posted by Daniel4
(Post 21322637)
After spending a few hundred dollars two years in a row replacing the bottom bracket and then the crank, my bike shop told me to clean my bike of the salt after every winter ride. That's the fat bike I bought new. But my other bike is a beater that I ride when the snow isn't that deep and I have never cleaned it.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 21323489)
There is something seriously wrong if you've had to replace the bottom bracket two years in a row. I don't know if you had to replace the crank twice (it's unclear) but I can't think of any reason why a crankset would have to be replaced because of salt. Nor should it cost "a few hundred dollars" to replace a bottom bracket, even twice. I think there is something else going on here. Even cheap bottom brackets have seals that are sufficient for years of abuse.
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Originally Posted by Daniel4
(Post 21325080)
I rode the bike for three winters before taking it back to the shop for its free annual maintenance. That's when they told me the bottom bracket was all corroded.
Originally Posted by Daniel4
(Post 21325080)
Then the following year, they said the front chain rings were all shark-toothed. I was getting skeptical but I had those changed too. So that's when they told me I had to clean off all the salt after every ride. So now I'm brushing the joints and bearings with diluted windshield washer fluid after every ride.
Additionally, were the teeth actually shark-finned or did they (or you) say that there were teeth missing? I see that complaint all the time here on the forums and at my local co-op. People see a couple of teeth that look different from the others and think they have broken something. The "missing teeth" are a feature, not a bug. They are designed that way to work with the shifting ramps. There are usually 4 of them spread evenly around the chainwheel. I'm not saying that these things didn't happen. I just saying that they are rather improbable based on my experience. I'll also say that brushing the bike with windshield washer fluid probably isn't doing anything. You are just hitting the surface and seldom does a component suffer damage on the surface. Corrosion does it's thing in the dark. |
Can’t say how much I hate salt. I have to budget 30 min on to the end of every ride for a complete rinse, then oil on the chain. Last week I decided not to after a ride, and the result two days later was several fused/stuck/rusted links.
All so drivers can keep driving like it’s not winter. |
Google "Salt Away". I keep a yard sprayer full of it for my winter bikes and the one motorcycle I have ready year round.
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how about vinegar instead of washer fluid? I recently watched an auto detailer video where they used vinegar to get road salt off floor mats (50/50 w/ water)
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
(Post 21327359)
how about vinegar instead of washer fluid? I recently watched an auto detailer video where they used vinegar to get road salt off floor mats (50/50 w/ water)
Acetic acid...vinegar, for the general public...doesn’t react with the magnesium or sodium or even calcium chlorides. The addition of acetic acid doesn’t change the solubility of the salts in water either, especially if the acetic acid concentration is cut in half from an already low level of 5%. If water were used in the video, I’m reasonably the same result would occur. |
Originally Posted by Daniel4
(Post 21322637)
After spending a few hundred dollars two years in a row replacing the bottom bracket and then the crank, my bike shop told me to clean my bike of the salt after every winter ride.
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Mild splatter: Into the kitchen, clean with baby wipes. (Baby wipes will freeze to a bike in the cold...ask me how I know.)
Full cleaning: In the bathtub/shower, with dishwashing soap. Dry thoroughly - indoors - and make sure that there is not water in the cable housing. (Outdoor water does not work in the cold places I've lived; it just freezes.) But yeah - it should not be necessary to do a full clean after each ride. |
Put some vinegar in the water it will neutralize the salt. We use it in the floor scrubbers at the school I work at. You don't need vary much maybe 2 oz for each gallon of water.
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