Carbon handlebars
So I just installed some carbon handlebars.
Pros: light, there is some flex, slight aero with the tops, does not transmit heat/cool like metal. Internal routing for cables is the most unique feature. Cons: flex could one day result in breakage, internal routed cables are at odd angles. On that last point, the brake cables line up great, the problem is the shift cables which don’t really line up with my shifters. I’m not sure who is at fault for this one, I’m thinking more the shifters. The shifters are microshift arsis 10’s. The way the cable is routed on it there are two ways it can go, straight back or to the side at an angle. The cable exit is also at an angle and is pointed up towards the user at about a 45 degree angle. So basically, to get it lined up doesn’t happen and keeping the housing and cable together results in the housing being bent in odd directions. The result also is that shifting is just harder. I dunno what to do, I put a lot of work into it. It should theoretically work. |
Would it help to just run the cables externally, taped to the handlebar? That’d be the zero-cost fix, otherwise it’s either new bar, new shifters or new shifters+derailleurs.
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If these are legit bars the website might have some instructions. If they are no name Ali/Chinese bar shaped objects, just drill some more holes, you can't make them any less safe.
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Originally Posted by adlai
(Post 23221097)
Cons: flex could one day result in breakage
Originally Posted by adlai
(Post 23221097)
The shifters are microshift arsis 10’s. The way the cable is routed on it there are two ways it can go, straight back or to the side at an angle. The cable exit is also at an angle and is pointed up towards the user at about a 45 degree angle.
So basically, to get it lined up doesn’t happen and keeping the housing and cable together results in the housing being bent in odd directions. |
Originally Posted by shelbyfv
(Post 23221216)
If these are legit bars the website might have some instructions. If they are no name Ali/Chinese bar shaped objects, just drill some more holes, you can't make them any less safe.
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Originally Posted by adlai
(Post 23221097)
So I just installed some carbon handlebars.
Pros: light, there is some flex, slight aero with the tops, does not transmit heat/cool like metal. Internal routing for cables is the most unique feature. Cons: flex could one day result in breakage, internal routed cables are at odd angles. |
Originally Posted by terrymorse
(Post 23221699)
The carbon fear mythology endures.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...26c9804015.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...effcb96195.jpg |
Real carbon bars MSRP from about $300-$400. Ali "carbon bars" are as low as $45. Fear of those may not be irrational.
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Oh yeah, these are AliExpress specials.
i think the main fault with the shift cable routing is with Microshift. Those never really routed well even on normal handlebars. Microshift should have made some routing of the cable that was more lateral instead of having it jut out at an angle. Like, ideally it would have some pulley or something. I'm thinking of spraying Teflon or something on the cable path. It does shift, but it is hard to move. Otherwise the carbon handlebars are great. You can feel the little bit of flex and even the wider "aero" parts of the bar are more comfortable for me. |
Originally Posted by adlai
(Post 23221933)
Oh yeah, these are AliExpress specials.
i think the main fault with the shift cable routing is with Microshift. Those never really routed well even on normal handlebars. Microshift should have made some routing of the cable that was more lateral instead of having it jut out at an angle. Like, ideally it would have some pulley or something. I'm thinking of spraying Teflon or something on the cable path. It does shift, but it is hard to move. Otherwise the carbon handlebars are great. You can feel the little bit of flex and even the wider "aero" parts of the bar are more comfortable for me. |
Originally Posted by Bald Paul
(Post 23221948)
FWIW, I have Whisky carbon bars, around $225. There isn't any flex. Zero. If I were you, I'd get a good set of alloy bars and toss those AliExpress 'flexies' in the trash.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
(Post 23221964)
Which Whisky bars do you have? I have the Spano carbon on my gravel bike, and have found the flex to be a nice feature.
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Are there more flexible shifter cables? I think I'm using the standard ones but the flex that this shifter puts them through is just too much. Have there been any advances? Maybe the arsis 10 was designed for different shift housings
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Originally Posted by Jughed
(Post 23221786)
These bars flexed - until they didn't... myth for some, reality for others!!!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...26c9804015.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...effcb96195.jpg |
Originally Posted by adlai
(Post 23221097)
So I just installed some carbon handlebars. ... Cons: flex could one day result in breakage, ...
Originally Posted by adlai
(Post 23221933)
Oh yeah, these are AliExpress specials.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
(Post 23221986)
Keep in mind though those are some random no-name bars from Alibaba and his 40 thieves so the flex there was probably not intentional it was just a quality issue. Most quality carbon bars from known qualities and quantities do not have these problems and if they do it is usually from a crash or some incident beyond normal riding.
My bars came on a used Giant TCX. I didn’t know anything about them, Google turned up with a raving review from Trace Velo… so I figured how bad could they be? Well, 5 broken bones bad. Then ole Trace posted videos of the bars assploding for him and a buddy. OP - get those things off your bike ASAP. |
I'm no carbon fiber expert...what I do know has come from doing carbon fiber repair on a bike and making small parts out of CF...but flexy Ali bars screams "void spaces and uneven resin application," to me. Reputable manufacturers can engineer some flex into carbon fiber, but these el cheapo bars probably don't have much in the way of engineering behind them. I'm guessing the extent of their engineering is just going for a thicker carbon lay up, splooging some resin in there, and hoping that the defects aren't readily noticeable to the end user.
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Originally Posted by Jughed
(Post 23222003)
Yep… and that is what we were joking about early in the thread… about them being knockoffs.
My bars came on a used Giant TCX. I didn’t know anything about them, Google turned up with a raving review from Trace Velo… so I figured how bad could they be? Well, 5 broken bones bad. Then ole Trace posted videos of the bars assploding for him and a buddy. OP - get those things off your bike ASAP. |
I have CF bars---not AliXPress, but Topeak .... on a couple bikes and they are just fine after years of hard riding. Cheap Chinese CF? You bet. Good bars ... well, I actually made that bet, and so far I am winning.
Like the CF frames every swore would assplode .... ten years ago ..... I don't mind waiting for the eventual catastrophe which happens after I have already expired from other causes. |
Originally Posted by adlai
(Post 23221097)
Cons: flex could one day result in breakage CF by nature endures flexing with a relatively unlimited load cycles compared to aluminum or even quality steel. I'll let everyone else regurgitate the same old CF arguments... |
Originally Posted by Maelochs
(Post 23222151)
I have CF bars---not AliXPress, but Topeak .... on a couple bikes and they are just fine after years of hard riding. Cheap Chinese CF? You bet. Good bars ... well, I actually made that bet, and so far I am winning.
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Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee
(Post 23222241)
Topeak is exactly the bar that failed on Tracevelo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF5AXiYfOBg&t=549s ToSeek assplode, not Topeak. |
Carbon bars are great, but not something to go cheap on for obvious reasons.
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Yeah, cheap stuff is flexy garbage, expensive parts have engineered compliance for rider comfort and safety.
Pigs sweat, gentlemen perspire :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Jughed
(Post 23222269)
ToSeek assplode, not Topeak.
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