Is Strava Negatively Impacting Your Cycling Club?
I recently read or reread this article and it really resounded this time:
The Angry Singlespeeder: Why Strava Sucks - Mtbr.com Here are the parts from it that struck a chord with me: "On Strava, if you’re not first, then you might as well be last. And that’s the problem. The constantly futile quest to be first is ruining the pleasure that used to come with riding a bike." "Strava is a true paradox, as it’s the most anti-social form of social media. Because everyone is so hell bent on personal best times or bagging the cherished KOM, people don’t talk to one another as much during rides. They’re either hammering, or getting ready to hammer. The social interaction doesn’t happen until everyone goes home and starts dicking with their smartphone or computer, giving ‘kudos’ and other cyber high-fives." "Thanks to Strava, recovery rides are also a thing of the past. If you do a recovery ride and happen to have your phone or Garmin working, people will see you were 185 out of 200. Then the rumors start flying. 'Oh man, did you see Billy Bob’s time up Monkey Hump? He must have fallen off the wagon!' And what fragile cyclist ego can handle that kind of abuse." "If you want to race, then either find the fastest group ride in your area, or open up your wallet and sign up for a race. Racing by yourself – or worse – racing on a ride that’s not supposed to be a race is just poor form. In the same way smartphones have forever altered the social code of human interaction, Strava has changed the way people ride — for the worse." My local club is going through a change right now where a subsection has gotten obsessed with beating Strava times on their rides to the point that they are causing a divisive rift in the club. It causing "us" and "them" rides within the same club. I've heard of the same thing happening in two other clubs nearby and it caused quite a bit of damage that ultimately made many feel they had no choice but to leave the club. Trying to avoid that locally. Wondering if Strava is the cause or maybe just an enabler that encourages this type of behavior. Or is this just part of the natural evolution of cycling clubs? Have you seen it locally in your own clubs? |
Oh, boy. I can't WAIT to see how this one blossoms.
You know, you're a brave soul, what with all of these Stravaganzos loitering about this place, lurking and leering, with straws in their teeth, just waiting to pounce on people like you. Yep, you've wandered into the belly of the beast, alright. :D |
Sounds like a load of bobbins.
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Here's a thought:
Turn off the Strava. There - problem solved. |
Originally Posted by Stratocaster
(Post 19639680)
Here's a thought:
Turn off the Strava. There - problem solved. That is much too sensible a solution! This guy chose another route (do you know how hard it is to program randomization????) . . . . Eager To Burst His Own Bubble, A Techie Made Apps To Randomize His Life : All Tech Considered : NPR |
What cycling club isn't already super hellbent on going faster and dropping the slow guys?
Srsly. This is the same anti tech anti social media spiel that one can apply to any real life social group that uses a social media app or tech as part of their activity. That being said I found the way to be KOM really easy. Go ride somewhere nobody else does, make it a segment, ride that segment, enjoy the silence of being KOM. |
Originally Posted by lazyeye
(Post 19639697)
What cycling club isn't already super hellbent on going faster and dropping the slow guys?
My introduction to Strava and cycling clubs happened at the same time. |
Originally Posted by Jarrett2
(Post 19639709)
Is that the default standard of all cycling clubs?
My introduction to Strava and cycling clubs happened at the same time. As always your experience will vary with real life play. I like Strava for tracking my personal progress then laughing that someone smoked my time at twice my speed. |
lol, funny. I've never rode with a group but when I ride it's for exercise, so I'm too busy breathing to carry a conversation.
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Originally Posted by xodondum
(Post 19639764)
lol, funny. I've never rode with a group but when i ride it's for exercise, so i'm too busy breathing to carry a conversation.
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Originally Posted by Stratocaster
(Post 19639680)
Here's a thought:
Turn off the Strava. There - problem solved. The real solution is to stop hanging out with DBs who use Strava in the ways listed in the article, who value you the Strava accomplishments more than you the person. |
Originally Posted by Scarbo
(Post 19639687)
That is much too sensible a solution! This guy chose another route (do you know how hard it is to program randomization????) . . . .
I think his solution to the problem would be to ride with random other cycling groups, not blame the technology. He would expand his cycling bubble outside of his small, close knit group. |
Some mt bikers use stravaturd to track their routes. What's this fast thing you speak of? Does it show climbs cleaned and no dabs? I don't race or usually keep track of stuff. On tour I do track miles though. YRMV.
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is Strava? I always thought it was an artificial sweetener.
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Originally Posted by jefnvk
(Post 19639825)
Heard that on the drive in to work today, quite an awesome idea! Although, I doubt the actual level of randomness programmed into such a device was that complex or hard, but I digress....
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He apparently didn't receive enough "kudos" so now he's bitter.
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Well, for my part, had I, that fine day in May not so long ago, been selfishly blind to all outward experience except my Strava, I would have blown past the woman who would one day soon have become my wife! But, no . . .
Next, when I cast mine eyes and see That brave vibration each way free, Oh, how that glittering taketh me! I slowed down to chat! It is good to climb out of oneself sometimes. |
Originally Posted by lazyeye
(Post 19639697)
What cycling club isn't already super hellbent on going faster and dropping the slow guys?
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Strava does not apply to me. I use MapMyRide.
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Strava isn't destroying your bike club; riders with sensitive egos are destroying your bike club.
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Not my club, certainly. We're more of a drinking/social group that rides bikes, and I don't think Strava tracks beer consumption. ;)
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 19639984)
Not my club, certainly. We're more of a drinking/social group that rides bikes, and I don't think Strava tracks beer consumption. ;)
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When ever the local bike shop does rides the local bike club members show up. They seem to be more interested in logging miles here. But not all are speed demons. Many ride bikes that are not meant for speed haha. One ride I was by myself but slowly a group formed behind me, two bike club members and a family. I was going at a slow pace since this was a ride and not a race. One of the guys says "Are we there yet" in a joking manor more than once. Irking my stupid ego at the time I said "Oh is this too slow for your taste?" So I shifted to by big ring and put down the power. Both the club members of course sped up to keep with me so it just turned to us three. But they turned out to be nice guys. One of the guys asked me about my bike, and the other at the rest area was talking to me about how I have my bike set for commute and how to be safer on the ice(mentioned I had a slip in the winter). Oh and wished me a happy birthday cause the ride happen to take place on my birthday. When talking to each other they seemed to talk about strava admiring other riders. "Did you see (insert random name)'s time up (blank) hill. That's the one over by Mercy Hospital. Man it's steep." A lot of the local bike guys seem to be into distance and touring setups though. But my former roommate started dating a cyclist(I told her I approve this decision) and I believe he's a roadie that rides in club a of speed demons on road bikes. We have multiple clubs around here. Find whatever one fits you.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 19639984)
Not my club, certainly. We're more of a drinking/social group that rides bikes, and I don't think Strava tracks beer consumption. ;)
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
(Post 19639984)
Not my club, certainly. We're more of a drinking/social group that rides bikes, and I don't think Strava tracks beer consumption. ;)
You're welcome :) |
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