A detailed Dahon Curl i8 review
Just found a detailed review of Dahon Curl i8. Some of my friends thought that Dahon was copying Brompton. After reading this review, they changed their opinions. Curl and Brompton are so different with each other. Each has its own
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Hi superzxq, any chance of translating the review?
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Originally Posted by superzxq
(Post 20091168)
Just found a detailed review of Dahon Curl i8. Some of my friends thought that Dahon was copying Brompton. After reading this review, they changed their opinions. Curl and Brompton are so different with each other. Each has its own
unique features. ´óÐÐ35ÖÜÄê¼ÍÄî°æCurl i8µÚ008ºÅ¿ªÏä¼òÆÀ ¡ª 77bike.comµ¥³µ½»Á÷Íø,ÖйúµÚÒ»ÕÛµþ×ÔÐгµÂÛ̳,ÆïÐÐ,´óÐÐ,dahon,p8,p18,bya412,412,·çÐÐfnhon,ÕÛµþ³µÉý¼¶¸Ä ×° |
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Originally Posted by avole
(Post 20091230)
Hi superzxq, any chance of translating the review?
[Wonderful discussion] Bank of the 35th anniversary Curl i8 No. 008 out of the box comments Beam curvature of the vehicle is the most criticized it, to be honest I do not like it. A lot of car parts, most of them are black plastic parts, estimated to spend a lot of mold fee. The curvature of the girder wraps the whole rear wheel in the frame after the rear wheel is folded, and the support on both sides should be strong but also contributes a lot of weight. The rigidity of this car is really good, the rear wheel is also not shockproof, so a lot better than the small cloth power. The vehicle actually looks better than the photo renderings, the owner deliberately wore the red shoes to mention the car. |
Alternatively you can use Chrome, which does it automatically. However, I didn't bother, as the translations are woeful.
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Nice pictures,...otherwise this post was a waste of time. Google Translate isn't up to translating the text, and all we get is nonsensical garbage to attempt to sift through.
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So Dahons are mass produced but Bromptons are what? individually built? Custom built? Hand built? I'm at a loss. Is the difference price? Where it is built?
I'm baffled, maybe only the Asians can mass produce something? Dahons are mass produced in Asia. Bromptons are mass produced in England. |
Originally Posted by Rick Imby
(Post 20095259)
So Dahons are mass produced but Bromptons are what? individually built? Custom built? Hand built? I'm at a loss. Is the difference price? Where it is built?
I'm baffled, maybe only the Asians can mass produce something? Dahons are mass produced in Asia. Bromptons are mass produced in England. |
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Originally Posted by Rick Imby
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Dahons are mass produced in Asia.
Bromptons are mass produced in England. Attachment 594790 |
Originally Posted by BooksandBikes
(Post 20096089)
There you go again! STOP IT! I am not a troll. I am not a Brompton fangirl--no more than you are a Dahon employee or Dahon fanboy.
The bike is cute. Leave it that. |
The red Curl looks very cute!! But not available in Malaysia now. Will make a review too when I got one :)
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Originally Posted by BooksandBikes
(Post 20096928)
The builder at Kinetics builds a new fork or something. His builds are gorgeous. I don't want to do all that. Just design the bike where larger tires can fit. I guess it is complicated because it changes the fold and weight.
Sigh. The wheel/tire size thing is particularly tricky. Brompton, of course, has 349 wheels. But I understand that it was a while before one could comfortably fit the widest tire available at that size: the Greenspeed Scorcher (40 mm wide). I keep thinking that my tikit would be better if it could comfortably fit 355 with Big Apples. |
€1,399 = US$1,700
For that kind of money, it's not worth it. Just get a six-speed Brompton. https://www.faltradxxs.de/dahon-curl...lieferbar.html |
Originally Posted by Winfried
(Post 20102432)
€1,399 = US$1,700
For that kind of money, it's not worth it. Just get a six-speed Brompton. https://www.faltradxxs.de/dahon-curl...lieferbar.html |
Why would anyone choose to own a Dahon Curl at $1780!
I've seen the bike first hand in a bike shop, it weighs around 13kg I used to own a Dahon D8 Jetsream, sold it after 1 month cause it rode so badly and you cannot roll the bike properly as you have to balance it on one wheel. Can't compare to a brompton I now own in any way. The dahon curl is also the same price as a Brompton M6R in Asia which costs more than UK, this means it costs more than a brompton. It's like a chinese made car pricing a new car at the BMW, Audi and Merc range, no chance. With any Dahon, you get zero customer service if your outside US, no aftermarket accessories and its made in China. How can this bike justify it's price? and it's made of all aluminum which is cheaper than high grade steel btw. Aside from the folding style vs a brompton, it's copied the look of a brompton, the distinctive curve in the frame. I have googled and found an official dahon curve unveiling with the same exact brompton pedals on. |
I don't get the Curl pricing I would of thought they were going to price it signficantly below but still above their normal Dahon pricing for the same components. A sort of mid position model. It may well get abandoned like many Dahon designs if its doesn't sell well and support maybe limited in future. The frame is unlikely to last as long as a Brompton unless ridden by a very light rider or infrequently. However I have no idea of Dahon's costs, designing and manufacturing the frame may have been expensive and maybe if the model sells long term pricing will get much more competitive later on. At the moment though pricing would seem to prevent the model getting established. I also wonder about copying the frame design of a Brompton but using aluminium rather than steel. The whole design of the Brompton frame is based around using steel. I honestly don't know why Dahon didn't also use steel.
I think most people will assume anyone riding a Curl is because its a cheaper option than Brompton. Ultimately I think its down to people's perception of the Dahon brand and the value they attribute to it and this may vary by country. Where the Dahon brand is very respected then such pricing will be accepted. |
I'm guessing Dahon is just starting out with a ludicrous price to try and recoup the many years of development; some people just want the latest thing like the iphone X.
Since there are no expensive components not many will sell and then the price will drop. $1000 has a chance of success; $700 would sell like hotcakes. |
I'd go for no more than $800 myself,... I had hoped for this to become a reality, but it's turned into more of a pipedream for me.
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I think the easiest answer to the price, which is high, I understand that myself, is that one really needs to ride the bike, uphill, mashing gears and do all the stuff you really shouldn't do on a folder ... than compare ..
Its not perfect , nothing ever is in my eyes.... but its worth it, even with the high price tag Not to forget that it is rated for 130 kg or 280 lbs I will pass on the comments if alloy is cheaper, a Jetstream doesn't ride well and and and comparing a Jetstream to a Brommy is just wrong on so many levels ... In any way we have 25 in besides the custom personal ones. That's it for at least the next 6 months. I am not too concerned that they wont sell in that time :-) |
Originally Posted by ThorUSA
(Post 20140611)
I think the easiest answer to the price, which is high, I understand that myself, is that one really needs to ride the bike, uphill, mashing gears and do all the stuff you really shouldn't do on a folder ... than compare ..
Its not perfect , nothing ever is in my eyes.... but its worth it, even with the high price tag Not to forget that it is rated for 130 kg or 280 lbs I will pass on the comments if alloy is cheaper, a Jetstream doesn't ride well and and and comparing a Jetstream to a Brommy is just wrong on so many levels ... In any way we have 25 in besides the custom personal ones. That's it for at least the next 6 months. I am not too concerned that they wont sell in that time :-) DAHON Curl i3 16" - DAHON Maybe the wheels are weaker and downgraded compared to elsewhere. That actually wouldn't be that surprising as many Dahon bikes seem to be downgraded in Europe. Cassettes turning into freewheels etc. Oh wait actually says 105kg on USA site as well. https://usa.dahon.com/bikes/curl-i3/ The eu bike weight claims to be 0.3kg heavier but I can't see the spec difference to justify it. Wheels look the same but eu models states double wall rims. It also states 18" rims and 16" tyres too though. Is the higher weight limit only on certain curl models? Better wheels? |
yeah the site needs updating my figures are from Dahon direct ...
heavens knows what they do in Europe ... might be wheels as you say or just copy and paste other specs. the fact that they are unsire about 18 versus 16 leads me to believe that they either don't know or don't give too much ... lol In any way we have many cool bikes and the Curl I 8 is only one of them |
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