It wants to be a Sports: Rusty 1954 Ralegh Superbe Tourist content lurks within
**CORRECTION - 1956**
This just arrived from the Florida Keys: https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ca42406e3a.jpg It was ridden hard and put away wet, obviously, and it hasn't escaped a front ender at one point in time either. Also, someone must have vandalized the spokes at some time; half of them are split. However - there's a very special machine under here. FW 4-speed, stainless 28" Westwood rims (which someone was able to shove 700x35C's on!), locking fork. The FW is from '54, the GH6 is from '56, and the frame's SN (....DC) would correlate something in the ~'56 region. Everything here, including the green finish, points to a 1954 Raleigh Superbe Tourist or thereabouts. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8d781e601c.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...498050fc64.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...780d03c8a0.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5826a5ea5.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...865b9bfa3a.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...04d7c99e3f.jpg This thing deserves to be called Mr. Oxalic for what I'm going to have to do to it. Yet, the one thing that doesn't add up is what's on the downtube. I'm convinced someone added it in the past. Raleigh might have done some weird things, but badging a 28" rod braker as a Sports wasn't one of them. They're also positioned a lot higher up than I'm used to seeing them. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ead03bd63b.jpg Cleaning this one up should prove to be interesting, to say the least. The current owner's husband used to ride it in the Keys until he was diagnosed with MLS. She says he got it in Delaware from Irénée Du Pont, Jr., but I haven't any paper documentation to confirm so. Either way, at the end of the day, it's a chance to save a Raleigh Superbe Tourist. This should be fun :) -Kurt |
Now that's a project! The bright parts will come back well; the paint, much more of a challenge! What's the decal on the seat tube? Looks like the Mercian sticker from a distance (which would be very odd).
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Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 22040076)
Now that's a project! The bright parts will come back well; the paint, much more of a challenge! What's the decal on the seat tube? Looks like the Mercian sticker from a distance (which would be very odd).
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b7f4faaa1e.jpg\ https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9175db4851.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...03941c4558.jpg -Kurt |
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In the stand. Already have both wheels off. Pretty sure I'll have to replace all the spokes; some of them easily snapped when bent. Trek had something like that around ~2010ish; something to do with problems with the stainless metallurgy. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...19b30d8ee9.jpg It's giving me a fair fight; this is after running enough polish on it that it would usually pop with a huge shine. Might have to go up to compound, but I think I want to oxalic the frame first; see what kind of results I get before making the guard too shiny. -Kurt |
Ah, the energy of youth!
The headlamp and mount looks aftermarket. I have roadster lamp brackets if you need one. Or other sundries. |
That wired rear lamp looks kinda French!
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Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 22040212)
Ah, the energy of youth!
The headlamp and mount looks aftermarket. I have roadster lamp brackets if you need one. Or other sundries. I could definitely use a proper 1950's Raleigh DL-1 lamp bracket; the current light has to go.
Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 22040255)
That wired rear lamp looks kinda French!
Part of me is a wee bit curious why a green Superbe should be wearing a standard FW and GH6 instead of an AG or FG. Given the weird selection of hubs on it, I wouldn't be surprised if they were both re-laced at one time. Perhaps even under warranty, given the '56 date of the front hub, and the matching stainless rims.. I also have a theory that this one might have been brought over from Europe (given the Swiss sticker), and wasn't a US market example. -Kurt |
Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 22040255)
That wired rear lamp looks kinda French!
-Kurt |
Just last week I got a '57 (or so) barn-find Raleigh Sports in a trade that's in much better shape paint-wise but wheels are pretty rusty. It does have the Dynohub but headlight has obviously seen better days. I would love to have a full-chaincase for it. I'll have to get some pics of it. I also have the original Brooks B66 saddle for it which is intact. I Proofided it but it's not too good of shape.
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Here's a testament to greasing seatposts and handlebar stems. Came right out, and it still has a nice film of grease:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8e72b8f560.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2c232fd148.jpg Almost there: https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ce898d049e.jpg Things that will not buff out: https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4272f50634.jpg Taillight appears to be an "ASAT Lucifer-4." Judging by this thread, the headlight and taillight on this DL-5 started as a pair. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7e9fd4fe06.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a9c74d1aca.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...212338e4c9.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1efe94cd68.jpg -Kurt |
Left to right, old to newer? PM if you want one.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7888513874.png |
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https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3a28f4336e.jpg Anybody jonesin' for a Dynohub? I cut out the spokes and it's in great shape cosmetically, no rust at all. Don't know if it actually works or not and it appears to be re-greased recently however the non-Dynohub side bearing cone is pitted (with my experience of SA hubs they all seem to be like this because the metal is simply inferior in my opinion). I'm using the hub as a display piece right now but I wouldn't mind it going to a good home. |
Originally Posted by cudak888
(Post 22040327)
I could definitely use a proper 1950's Raleigh DL-1 lamp bracket; the current light has to go.
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Also I have a completely rust-free SA AW (date 7 54) three-speed hub looking for a good home. No pitting at all on the metal hub shell, it actually looks brand new if I can manage to get some of the caked-on grease off of it. The Endrick rims I had to toss since they were too rusty on the inside. More pics coming soon!
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Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 22043282)
Left to right, old to newer? PM if you want one.
Originally Posted by smurfy
(Post 22043315)
I think I have one of those which I probably won't reuse. Probably tomorrow I will bring my Raleigh out of the basement and take a pic of two (or three) of it. Again, not bragging or anything like that but it's an actual fifties model and is in much better shape cosmetically. If you need parts I can probably help you out.
-Kurt |
is that a key hole on the non-drive side of the fork crown??
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Originally Posted by smurfy
(Post 22043315)
it's an actual fifties model and is in much better shape cosmetically. If you need parts I can probably help you out.
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https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b73132e984.jpg
Photo of rear of headlight bracket. I really haven't had much time to play with this bike so maybe I'll get it disassembled this weekend and get you a better pic. I'll post more pics tonight. |
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Wow Kurt! A rusty crusty Raleigh is exactly what you need! Hahahaha! Do plan to swap the rear seat stays for some sort of suspension gizmo? ;)
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Originally Posted by smurfy
(Post 22044879)
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Incidentally, that's far too nice a Sports to part out. It'd polish up really nice.
Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh
(Post 22044936)
Wow Kurt! A rusty crusty Raleigh is exactly what you need! Hahahaha! Do plan to swap the rear seat stays for some sort of suspension gizmo? ;)
-Kurt |
Originally Posted by cudak888
(Post 22044955)
A Sports lamp bracket won't clear the rod brakes, so I'll have to go with one of @clubman's brackets.
I had other brackets, will start looking. |
Everything is apart. Excuse the mess on top of the mess.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ef46013b9f.jpg Here's the frame and the nasty bits of the front ender. If this comes out, good. If not, I'm going to seriously consider a frame swap on this one. I know an OA bath can do miracles, but this may be at the point of diminishing returns. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...70a3e4c3ac.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6b7bd3094c.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...470fe90cf6.jpg Turns out even the tires and tubes are Swiss. Produit Maloja Suisse. Also, I read the tire size wrong - they're 700x35B's, so they are, in fact, the correct 28"/635mm tires one would usually find on one of these: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d5c6b00b74.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...737cabfbd3.jpg Rear hub is an FW shell, but there's an AW in it. Crap. This was probably the pre-internet fix for "My FW hub isn't working." At least the stainless rims are very satisfying to clean up, even though they're eventually going to get de-laced and cleaned correctly. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be60cd9a80.jpg Before (not really bad at all): https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9ebc532278.jpg After: https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3e5d278481.jpg
Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 22045002)
Geez, I'd totally blanked on the rod brake clearance. Give me a a measurement. I think my brackets may be Sports as well. Centre of the steerer to the rod clearance maxes out at about 5 cm.
I had other brackets, will start looking. -Kurt |
As my name would suggest, I am a fan of originality so I would do little to preserve that fine machine. Get the mechanical bits functioning (bearings, tires, lube pivot points), clean off rust where it won't hurt any original finish and cruise around the neighborhood in leisure.
FWIW - I have a Bianchi (similar style and era) in a similar state but mine will need a LOT of love to be right. Rod brakes are rad brakes... |
Originally Posted by RustyJames
(Post 22045349)
As my name would suggest, I am a fan of originality so I would do little to preserve that fine machine. Get the mechanical bits functioning (bearings, tires, lube pivot points), clean off rust where it won't hurt any original finish and cruise around the neighborhood in leisure.
FWIW - I have a Bianchi (similar style and era) in a similar state but mine will need a LOT of love to be right. Rod brakes are rad brakes... -Kurt |
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