Here come new Garmin toys: Vector 3 and Edge 1030!
 

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Looking forward to the Vector 3, especially!

Source: http://gpsrumors.com/garmin-edge-1030-soon

Cool. I'll have to add that 1030 to my Christmas wish list this year.

I'll be interested to see what the pricing is like on the PM pedals - I'd love to see an aggressive price, but I'm not confident that that's going to happen.

Hopefully the larger screen diagonal is indeed due to reduced bezel-size. E1K is already a bit goofy-big.

I'll believe it when I see it that the 1030 has a 16hr endurance battery.

wonder if it will be worth the upgrade over my 800. probably not until my 800 craps the bed and i'll probably replace with a 520 unless there is a compelling reason

I would refer you to the "Cycling is so Expensive" thread...

I am still using a Garmin Edge 305, but hey it still works and does what I need. Now those pedals...

I can't find any more information on the pedals. Would love to know what updates they have done and when they will be available. I'm currently in the market for a power meter and was shopping the Stages vs Vector 2S. I like the idea of the Garmins being able to upgrade to a 2 pedal system.

I know the Edge 1000 doesn't get a lot of love but I really like mine, mostly because of the extra screen real estate. If I was in the market for a new Garmin I'd take a serious look at the 1030.

I love how bullet point 2 on the pedals is *easy to install*. Yeah, they're pedals. Duh.

Garmin, for RWP. 1030 looks neat, can't touch anything, just looking.

I’m sure they're referring to the people who complained that it was difficult to use a torque wrench to install pedals (as well as the uber difficult power pod installation requiring the included 2.5 28mm hex wrench).

For people with the Garmin Edge 1000, is it easy to use with the touchscreen? That would be a negative for me.

Figures. I just spent $800 on a set of Vector 2s.

Very easy. Much easier and more intuitive than push buttons.


It's like a smart phone compared to a flip phone. The touch interface allows a lot more functionality.

I'm assuming the interface is a bit smoother and faster than the 520 then. Also, do you know how to turn off the email notification of a quoted post?

It's not as good as push buttons. I have a 1000 and a 25. The push buttons on the 25 are easy to use while riding ad they don't get accidentally pushed while in a jersey pocket. The 1000 touchscreen gets confused by sweat. Sometimes it doesn't respond. I have to lock it before I put it in a pocket.

I've never had my E1K glitch out due to sweat...rain can sometimes confuse it.

Remembering the Good Old Days (they really weren't) of Edge 205/305 and Edge 705 that were button only...please never again. I'll take the odd glitch over needing 500 button presses any day.

Hopefully Garmin gets it right with these two products, because they are certainly under threat from other products in both head unit and powermeter spheres.

Garmin has the resources to make top quality products, but they had fallen behind in several areas, and I think were critically flawed in not realizing that the average smartphone is a powerful ally in device setup and management.

Anyway, the rider to rider messaging sound like a big feature which could make 1030 the leading choice for club rider leaders, tour group operators, and maybe even race teams. Somethling like push-of-a-button, on-the-fly transmission of time behind on a route, or location on a route, to fellow riders would be pretty neat and darn useful in some scenarios.

Vectors got destroyed by easy setup of Powertap P1, so simplifying Vector was essential for survival of that product. I'm not sure they need it, but the "ecosystem" mentality is still a factor, so if they can deliver a profitable product, why not cash in on brand equity?

I'm glad to see competition and innovation.

Some of the intriguing features on the new edge (popularity based routing, improved cycling awareness?) appear to be software based, so they may be available elsewhere. Otherwise, the 520 is the best computer I have ever owned, so I won't be compelled to upgrade. Hell, my 500 was great, it was just 6 years old and I wanted auto uploads, and that is the only thing that bumped me to the 520.

The touchscreen is easy to use and the menu interface is very intuitive, I think. You do need to use the screen lock function when you are riding if you tend to sweat onto the screen though. I don't think it is a big deal to use, but if you don't and you drop a bunch of sweat onto it, or if it is raining, the water will activate a data field and think that you want to change what is displayed in it.


I really wish a company would come out with a pedal based power meter system based on Shimano spd. There are enough road pedal PM meters out there, IMHO.

Recently, I needed pedals, and a power meter. Buying Vector 2 over P1 was a no brainer. I wasn't willing to spend an extra ~$400 for a slightly simpler installation, which is going to happen rarely, and a much uglier pedal. (The difference in sticker price isn't so big, but it's easy to get a discount on Vectors.)

Hard to do for a few reasons:

-SPD pedals are fairly open to aid in mud shedding-hard to get a strain gauge in there
-SPD is intended as an MTB pedal...considering how badly beaten up MTB pedals get when used for MTB....it wouldn't last long...hence the pref for crankarm sensors
-MTB pedals (overwhelmingly) have the shoe tread resting on the pedal by design, making measurement error prone I'd wager...as opposed to say LOOK style cleats that bear 100% of the pedaling force.**

**Only MTB pedal I know of offhand where the only contact between shoe and pedal is the cleat (like in road shoes), is the Speedplay Syzr.

Really? I would call Garmin about that, if I were you. I used a 1000 for three years in all kinds of weather, including all kinds of terrain, and never once had the touchscreen get confused by sweat, rain, snow, hail, gravel, accidental touches, or anything. Never a problem with it responding. You should call customer service.

Hmm, I thought pedal meters measured pedal spindle deflection, and so would expect the shoe/pedal interface doesn't matter.

Were I guessing, I'd say it's more to do with the challenges of dual-sided design, bit I don't know.