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CR Pans 3 Helmets As Unsafe: Bontrager, Morpher & Woom
"Consumer Reports has rated three helmets as unsafe in its latest helmet test editorial package. For varying reasons, the independent, nonprofit member organization said helmets from Bontrager, Morpher and Woom failed its tests and are rated as "Don't Buy-Safety Risk.""
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/prod...ticle-comments |
From the article. The Bontrager MIPS helmet had a buckle break.
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you can pur on a heavier buckle* if you altrady have one of those helmets
*National Molding 'Fastex' has a vast assortment.. |
Originally Posted by 1nterceptor
(Post 21007954)
"Consumer Reports has rated three helmets as unsafe in its latest helmet test editorial package. For varying reasons, the independent, nonprofit member organization said helmets from Bontrager, Morpher and Woom failed its tests and are rated as "Don't Buy-Safety Risk.""
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/prod...ticle-comments |
Bontrager, Morpher and Woom could be a law firm specializing in product liability and tort claims. Just sayin'
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I'm no fan of Bontrager products but fair is fair and Consumer Reports is dubious as a source of valid information.
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The cutting edge helmet no good?
https://www.trekbicyclesuperstore.co...SAAEgJb3PD_BwE |
Some years back CU broke the buckle on a Cannondale helmet. IIRC no other testing organization was able to duplicate this failure.
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The Ballista is a fantastic helmet. Aero, well ventilated, looks good, not heavy. Strap design is its weakest point as it's not super premium. If one result from the CR testing is that Trek comes out with a better retention system for a future model year, I'll be buying a new one.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 21008046)
you can pur on a heavier buckle*
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz
(Post 21009377)
Bontrager, Morpher and Woom could be a law firm specializing in product liability and tort claims. Just sayin'
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Originally Posted by trailangel
(Post 21009426)
The cutting edge helmet no good?
https://www.trekbicyclesuperstore.co...SAAEgJb3PD_BwE CR was able to break the buckle on two samples of the Bontrager Ballista MIPS model in its tests. |
If The buckle is the issue?, the solution is clear.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
(Post 21009410)
I'm no fan of Bontrager products but fair is fair and Consumer Reports is dubious as a source of valid information.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
(Post 21009540)
Based on what?
https://www.thecarconnection.com/new...u-need-to-know What they did was separate the Toyota and Lexus brand so as to mitigate the damage to the company. It was like Lexus was not a part of Toyota. All other luxury brands in their annual review were tied to their base brand(Honda/Acura). So I felt they tried to cover for Toyota and Lexus during this time frame. I even emailed some of their writers on this and they denied it, but it was pretty obvious to me. |
Originally Posted by TimothyH
(Post 21009410)
I'm no fan of Bontrager products but fair is fair and Consumer Reports is dubious as a source of valid information.
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How many of each helmet did they test?
If they tested 1 and had 1 buckle failure, that's hardly a scientifically valid claim that the buckles are defective. If they tested 1000 helmets and 50 buckles broke, that has some validity. |
Originally Posted by bruce19
(Post 21009601)
I've always found CR to be an objective and valuable resource. Not to say I haven't had differences but I wouldn't call them a dubious source of valid information.
Originally Posted by wgscott
(Post 21009540)
Based on what?
Many times they use useless or irrelevant metrics to rate one product higher than another. For example, they rated the Corvette lower than the Nova because the Corvette had higher maintenance costs. The reality is that maintenance costs are low on the the list of things important to most in the market for a Corvette. Eagle F1 tires were rated low because they wear out fast. The reality is that sports car owners at the time knew this and yet viewed them as breakthrough product for performance sports car use. These are example of how they are (were?) divorced from why people buy certain products in the first place. Sure, everyone understands an objective measure of durability when talking about things like washing machines but high end gear is different. I'm not sure they are (were?) in the position to guide people in the market for a specialty bicycle equipment. Outdoor Gear Lab does some decent reviews of sports gear. -Tim- |
I have to admit the idea that a Nova could rank anywhere above the lowest boggles my mind.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
(Post 21009806)
I'm sorry for shooting from the hip and should have been clearer. I meant high-end specialty gear. See below.
Maybe they have changed but I used to look at their print magazine. Many times they use useless or irrelevant metrics to rate one product higher than another. For example, they rated the Corvette lower than the Nova because the Corvette had higher maintenance costs. The reality is that maintenance costs are low on the the list of things important to most in the market for a Corvette. Eagle F1 tires were rated low because they wear out fast. The reality is that sports car owners at the time knew this and yet viewed them as breakthrough product for performance sports car use. These are example of how they are (were?) divorced from why people buy certain products in the first place. Sure, everyone understands an objective measure of durability when talking about things like washing machines but high end gear is different. I'm not sure they are (were?) in the position to guide people in the market for a specialty bicycle equipment. Outdoor Gear Lab does some decent reviews of sports gear. -Tim- |
Who should you trust? Helmet makers dispute Consumer Reports findingshttps://www.bicycleretailer.com/indu...s#.XR_SJOhKhPY"The maker of a helmet model that failed a recent Consumer Reports test said the results are "fake news." He also questioned whether the publication's in-house testing should be given more weight than the multiple national standards his helmets have been certified to pass." |
Originally Posted by TimothyH
(Post 21009806)
Maybe they have changed but I used to look at their print magazine.
Many times they use useless or irrelevant metrics to rate one product higher than another. |
Originally Posted by bruce19
(Post 21009601)
I've always found CR to be an objective and valuable resource.
https://www.aim.org/aim-report/aim-r...sumer-reports/ |
Originally Posted by wgscott
(Post 21009529)
Dewey, Cheatham and Howe.
Bicycles and helmets aren't the only thing I distrust CR on. HiFi past 1978 is another, camera gear another just to name some. |
Originally Posted by 1nterceptor
(Post 21013088)
Who should you trust? Helmet makers dispute Consumer Reports findingshttps://www.bicycleretailer.com/indu...s#.XR_SJOhKhPY"The maker of a helmet model that failed a recent Consumer Reports test said the results are "fake news." He also questioned whether the publication's in-house testing should be given more weight than the multiple national standards his helmets have been certified to pass." |
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