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veggie 06-30-19 02:39 PM

Free Paramount!
 
Buddy gave me his 73 Paramount as a late birthday present recently.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be279aa7f3.jpg


Reading this and with a little confirmation from the Steel is Real Facebook group, I am confident in calling this a p10-9. S/N# M72255. This is what my buddy had to say, "Yea, it's a P10-9. The guy I bought it from worked at a Schwinn dealer in the 70s in Chicago.
He wanted the racing model, but this frame sat for over a year and the owner sold it to him cheap,
then he built it up with the Nuovo Record stuff from another Paramount but with the bar ends instead.
He unfortunately did not keep the original parts as part of the deal."

While doing a bit of re-assembly I hit a snag.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6eea985e6c.jpg


The clamps for the brake levers don't seem to be fitting. Tell me it ain't so! Any suggestions?
Better pictures to come!

merziac 06-30-19 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by veggie (Post 21004520)
Buddy gave me his 73 Paramount as a late birthday present recently.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be279aa7f3.jpg


Reading this and with a little confirmation from the Steel is Real Facebook group, I am confident in calling this a p10-9. S/N# M72255. This is what my buddy had to say, "Yea, it's a P10-9. The guy I bought it from worked at a Schwinn dealer in the 70s in Chicago.
He wanted the racing model, but this frame sat for over a year and the owner sold it to him cheap,
then he built it up with the Nuovo Record stuff from another Paramount but with the bar ends instead.
He unfortunately did not keep the original parts as part of the deal."

While doing a bit of re-assembly I hit a snag.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6eea985e6c.jpg


The clamps for the brake levers don't seem to be fitting. Tell me it ain't so! Any suggestions?
Better pictures to come!

FREE? Dibs!

You one lucky boy, great score. ;)

Cobble, fabricate, sub in different levers or bands that fit or change the bars and stem if necessary.

At least in the short term, this would have slowed me down for all of 5 minutes, well maybe 10. :roflmao2:

SurferRosa 06-30-19 03:59 PM


The clamps for the brake levers don't seem to be fitting. Tell me it ain't so! Any suggestions? ​​​​​​
When that has happened to me a couple times, I filed the end of the bar a tiny bit to get the band to fit, then it was easy to push up from there.

veggie 06-30-19 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by merziac (Post 21004561)
FREE? Dibs!

You one lucky boy, great score. ;)

Cobble, fabricate, sub in different levers or bands that fit or change the bars and stem if necessary.

At least in the short term, this would have slowed me down for all of 5 minutes, well maybe 10. :roflmao2:

Yeah, dia compes are what will happen if I can't get the clamps to fit, but I hope it doesn't come to that though because I'm trying to not spend any money on this besides consumables like cables.




Originally Posted by SurferRosa (Post 21004608)
When that has happened to me a couple times, I filed the end of the bar a tiny bit to get the band to fit, then it was easy to push up from there.


Hadn't thought of that, thanks for the tip

merziac 06-30-19 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by veggie (Post 21004918)
Yeah, dia compes are what will happen if I can't get the clamps to fit, but I hope it doesn't come to that though because I'm trying to not spend any money on this besides consumables like cables.

It could have easily come with Dia Compes and "safety" levers, seen them even with Campy calipers. :twitchy:


Hadn't thought of that, thanks for the tip

Like I said, fabricate. ;)

veggie 06-30-19 07:45 PM

Keep those safety levers away! Wrong Schwinn for those

merziac 06-30-19 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by veggie (Post 21004955)
Keep those safety levers away! Wrong Schwinn for those

Oh I know, got a couple pair that I have taken off, my 58 even came with "upgraded" Schwinn approved ones that the PO had installed for comfort.

Almost NOS and the real deal, many of these came with them AND Twin Stick stem mounted shifters, saw them in person back in the day. :roflmao:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fcf1e68967.jpg

veggie 06-30-19 10:12 PM

I love the way green and brown look together :)
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c2228cf86d.jpg

merziac 06-30-19 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by veggie (Post 21005162)
I love the way green and brown look together :)
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c2228cf86d.jpg

Yep, me too, it's all good although the 58 didn't stay that way.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ca3112c1dd.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f8136766c9.jpg

xiaoman1 07-01-19 08:45 AM

Veggie, Nice score!
You don't need to file the bars, you can open them slightly...There is a tool made specifically for this but I have used a socket ( all of my Craftsmen's have a slight bevel on either end). Find one that is just a little larger than the clamp ring, push it in and move up a size if the dia. is still too small.
Works every time..Good luck.
Best, Ben

fleslider 07-01-19 10:50 PM

Keep it Campy! Here is my 1974 P10-9 , that is mostly all original. except for tires/tubes , Chain and cables.

I think bar tape is either original or was installed in the 70's .

I got this from the original owner who got it with campy brakes.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d66bb64407.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e0c70aa253.jpg

tkamd73 07-02-19 05:56 AM

That’s happened to me, not the free Paramount part unfortunately, but using a hammer and tapered metal dowel has worked every time, in opening the clamp up a bit.
Tim

veggie 07-08-19 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by xiaoman1 (Post 21005628)
Veggie, Nice score!
You don't need to file the bars, you can open them slightly...There is a tool made specifically for this but I have used a socket ( all of my Craftsmen's have a slight bevel on either end). Find one that is just a little larger than the clamp ring, push it in and move up a size if the dia. is still too small.
Works every time..Good luck.
Best, Ben

Great suggestion, thanks! I pulled out my sockets, got through 16 and 17, but my harbor freight socket kit doesn't have an 18mm. But I know my dad does!


Originally Posted by fleslider (Post 21007002)
Keep it Campy!

Oh yeah! Campy all the way! I've got a pair of SR cranks that I'm gonna put on here and if I can find a campy dt clamp, some campy downtube shifters.

John E 07-08-19 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by veggie (Post 21016923)
... I pulled out my sockets, got through 16 and 17, but my harbor freight socket kit doesn't have an 18mm. But I know my dad does!
...

He must be a VW/Audi owner. :) That's about the only place I have found a use for the 18mm socket I bought open stock.

veggie 07-08-19 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by John E (Post 21017103)
He must be a VW/Audi owner. :) That's about the only place I have found a use for the 18mm socket I bought open stock.

Far from it! We are a Japanese car family. Even the one American car they have is really a Toyota in a GM suit.

He just has a well stocked tool chest.


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