|
Any guesses on this vintage gal?
Before I take a plunge...
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...84fbb150d8.jpg Bulbous stays/seat tube attachment https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0cde9326d1.jpg Interesting cut-out https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...597b241b09.jpg Elegant cable guides and a flat top fork crown https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fd6bae6dff.jpg Campy guides and dropouts https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dbbaa264a8.jpg Obviously a repaint... https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...baee921bd5.jpg Longhorn campy drops Reminds me of a Spanish build for some reason... |
Doesn't appear to be a gal to me. Roger
|
Bottom bracket threading???
Dean |
I...
I think ... I think this may be a Ron Cooper. I've seen them with the four holes in the BB like this, and the stays are a dead ringer, both in the way they are attached to the seat lug and the way they are domed at the dropout. Fork crown is also something he's used. Are the fork blade ends domed where they attach to the dropouts? Hell of a find, if I'm right. |
Not that the bottom bracket cutouts are exclusive to, but Ron Cooper came to mind as well. An old 70’s Bicycling! Magazine as I recall did a write up on him.
|
I wasn't aware of the holes in the bb shell on Ron Coopers, maybe those are the older ones (?).
I completely concur WRT the seatstay joinery, that looks like Ron Cooper's great execution there. This frame being about my size, would be oh so jealous if I didn't have one already! You will love the ride. |
Pay little attention to the top tube cable guides and even the bottom bracket cable guides, actually any save the drive side chainstay stop.
|
Just get it and find out later!
|
I bid on it. If it is a Ron Cooper, would it have British threading? What tubes might they be?
|
Originally Posted by jdawginsc
(Post 21568634)
I bid on it. If it is a Ron Cooper, would it have British threading? What tubes might they be?
His work and materials were always top notch. |
Originally Posted by scarlson
(Post 21568665)
BSA threading for sure, likely Reynolds 531 tubes, likely double butted and thinner than touring spec unless it was a custom build for a gorilla.
His work and materials were always top notch. |
-----
we are clearly in Britain here lug pattern Prugnat 62/d fork crown Vagner DL top tube guides post manufacture add-on looks like we are in the early 1970's mitred-in seat stays and BB cutouts are certainly suggestive of the barrel maker ----- |
You're lucky it's not my size. I'd have sleuthed it out and cut a deal with the seller behind your back! :p
Love my 1970s-era Cooper to death. Its serial also has 3 digits and starts with 7. |
Originally Posted by scarlson
(Post 21568772)
You're lucky it's not my size. I'd have sleuthed it out and cut a deal with the seller behind your back! :p
Love my 1970s-era Cooper to death. Its serial also has 3 digits and starts with 7. |
Originally Posted by juvela
(Post 21568718)
-----
we are clearly in Britain here lug pattern Prugnat 62/d fork crown Vagner DL top tube guides post manufacture add-on looks like we are in the early 1970's mitred-in seat stays and BB cutouts are certainly suggestive of the barrel maker ----- |
Originally Posted by juvela
(Post 21568718)
-----
we are clearly in Britain here lug pattern Prugnat 62/d fork crown Vagner DL top tube guides post manufacture add-on looks like we are in the early 1970's mitred-in seat stays and BB cutouts are certainly suggestive of the barrel maker ----- I assumed early-mid 70s, but bottle bosses and DT shifter bosses made me think a bit later (77 or 78). With the bulbous stay caps, I got confused. |
Fork blades also look like "Reynolds" profile, GLWS!
|
Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 21568825)
Please, stave off any false conclusions...
:thumb: yes, its always wise to avoid too much hoop-la ----- |
Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 21568825)
Please, stave off any false conclusions...
|
Originally Posted by scarlson
(Post 21568890)
Forgive me, I see something that looks Cooper-ish and I get excited. Like there are baby pictures of me next to the family heirloom Ron Cooper frame I'm riding on now.
|
Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 21568895)
Sorry, just word play instigated by juvela and his 'Cooper-barrel-maker' references. Hence 'stave'. I respect everyone's opinions on this kind of sleuthing.
See I can't even keep my banter straight when presented with photos of Ron Coopers. |
Originally Posted by juvela
(Post 21568867)
-----
:thumb: yes, its always wise to avoid too much hoop-la ----- |
-----
...just watch out for the bung hole! --- note that serial appears to begin 7 2 8(?). 1972 would be a plausible construction date. (unfamiliar with Ronnie's serial system) --- shell looks like a BOCAMA pattern. here it is on a Gazelle Champion Mondial of 1979 - https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3ab0108a61.jpg --- if you should elect to proceed with it please begin a build thread so that we can all follow along and share in your enjoyment of working with the frame. :) ----- |
I think we've bung-led this thread all to hell.
OK, I quit, promise. Geez, the master got in there first. |
The humor in this thread is scraping the bottom.
|
| All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:42 AM. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.