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dwing 08-01-18 08:18 AM

Sad state Peugeot; Anything salvageable?
 
Found this sadly dishonored junkyard Peugeot and felt compelled to give its' last respects here where might be appreciated for what it once was. Appears to be an early 80's, and some of the details makes me wonder if this was a higher end "P" model? Anyway, I'd lover to hear any comments , guesses of the model, and suggestions of what to do with it. Is anything salvageable? It's been fun just reading and researching Peugeot. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...07ec59bb94.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eb082ef1bc.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2deb1619cf.jpg

dwing 08-01-18 08:22 AM

More pics in memory of...
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ae76f02f2a.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e5deb051f6.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4e7f7fdf15.jpg

dwing 08-01-18 08:24 AM

So sad...
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...643e365de2.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...16c84dee8e.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...10f98983ed.jpg

dwing 08-01-18 08:27 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ec17bb48f9.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...596e092e26.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3375b17453.jpg

wrk101 08-01-18 08:45 AM

Sure, crankset and stem are both sellable, as is bottom bracket if it is OK. Of course, it has stuck stem written all over it. Saddle may be sellable too (low price). Some people rebuild them. Seat post may be stuck too, if not, put in your parts bin or donate. I'd save the shift levers too.


You will probably have to cut out the stripped dust caps.


Since I keep a rust bath going for small parts, I'd save the headset too.

Rescuing those parts will not only bring you some $$, but you will be helping someone out with their bike restoration. Parts live on to provide value to others. Win/win.


Got to love the knot on the end of the shift cable......

wrk101 08-01-18 08:58 AM

Reference point, I got over $200 out of parts on this old UO8 with a large crack on the steer tube. Still have the early Mafac brakes which have value too. I bought it mainly for the non-original Belt leather saddle, which is now on my Sekai Professional 4000.

Bike was in the scrap pile when I found it.


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4424/...48edd89df3.jpg
1963 Peugeot UO8 by wrk101, on Flickr

mixteup 08-01-18 09:06 AM

Looks restoreable to me - But you're certainly looking at a repaint - And a fair bit of parts scrounging
That's IF you can get it all apart OK - Stem, seatpost, etc.
The chrome socks will clean up pretty nicely with an oxalic acid bath ...........

rustystrings61 08-01-18 10:38 AM

What size is the frame and where are you located?

Velo Mule 08-01-18 10:50 AM

I have never seen the front brake adjuster used in the back like this. Clever, if you are absolutely in a pinch. But not clever if you have any time to source the right part. If the seat post and stem come out, the frame doesn't look too bad if you are up for painting it or selling it.

juvela 08-01-18 10:53 AM

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Appears as if it may have begun life as a manner of PFN10.

1980 U.S. market brochure page -

http://i65.tinypic.com/dzw51w.jpg

The machine's stamped steel pedals appear below the balance of the cycle. They look to be replacements. Specification is Atom 440.

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rhm 08-01-18 11:08 AM

The saddle is missing the shackle clip and bolt, but you can get those from Niagara cycle supply and other vendors. I'm not sure anyone would be able to get the replacement bolt back into the saddle without further damage to the leather, though. Pretty easy to put new leather on the frame, of course.

Is the frame bent? It looks like the bike had a head-on crash that bent the fork and cracked the frame paint at the usual spot, but I don't see frame damage.

ryansu 08-01-18 11:34 AM

Oh come on most of that will buff right out....seriously not beyond salvation but it would need a lot of work, probably best to salvage what you can unless its a great fit and you have the desire to bring it back from the scrap heap

non-fixie 08-01-18 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by juvela (Post 20482195)
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Appears as if it may have begun life as a manner of PFN10.

1980 U.S. market brochure page -

http://i65.tinypic.com/dzw51w.jpg

The machine's stamped steel pedals appear below the balance of the cycle. They look to be replacements. Specification is Atom 440.

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+1. And I'd be tempted to see if I could save that frame set if it were my size. Peugeots of that era tend to be rather nice.

verktyg 08-01-18 12:35 PM

Pfn10 ?
 

Originally Posted by juvela (Post 20482195)
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Appears as if it may have begun life as a manner of PFN10.

1980 U.S. market brochure page -

http://i65.tinypic.com/dzw51w.jpg

The machine's stamped steel pedals appear below the balance of the cycle. They look to be replacements. Specification is Atom 440. -----

+1 too :thumb: Early 80's

I was going to call PSV-10 or something like that, with a replacement fork

The fork crown threw me. I thought that it was a replacement from the early 70's until you posted the picture.

Worth stripping and cleaning up. It's on a par with the older PR-10 models. Vitus 172 butted main tubes, same wall thicknesses as Reynolds 531 used on most production bikes: 1.0mm x 0.7mm. About the same after brazing strength too.

@rhm on closer examination, the fork is bent at the base of the steerer and maybe the crown too. The frame looks OK.

Steerer should be replaced if the crown is OK because Peogeot (and Motobecane) used cheap straight gage tubes with a split sleeve brazed into the bottom for reinforcement. Wouldn't recommend straightening it.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e295dcc9ff.jpg
verktyg :50:

lostarchitect 08-01-18 12:36 PM

Fork looks bent.

I'd at least make an attempt at saving that frame. I bet you can do it.

Bad Lag 08-01-18 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by lostarchitect (Post 20482428)
Fork looks bent.

I'd at least make an attempt at saving that frame. I bet you can do it.

Saving it would have to be a labor of love.

Grand Bois 08-01-18 02:38 PM

I would save that Simplex seat post bolt. I like to use them on French bikes.

lostarchitect 08-01-18 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bad Lag (Post 20482682)
Saving it would have to be a labor of love.

Or maybe boredom!

tiredhands 08-01-18 02:57 PM

Oxalic acid baths are very restorative treatments for rusty, crusty Peugeots. If you got the time, go for it!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4640/...a1ae9e75_c.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4698/...f8823e9a_c.jpg

gearbasher 08-01-18 03:04 PM

Crank arms look about 15 degrees off. What's up with that?

thumpism 08-01-18 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by gearbasher (Post 20482794)
Crank arms look about 15 degrees off. What's up with that?

The left one is Atlantic Time Zone.

dwing 08-01-18 04:23 PM

Wow, thanks for all the feedback, you guys are inspiring! Yes, fork is bent (too bad because that crown is too cool) & there's a rust hole on non-drive stay. Frame & head tube doesn't appear to be bent but I'll know more as I proceed. Non-drive crank inside square is rounded so that's toast. Somebody drilled and screwed a bolt to try holding it to the BB, lol.

I'm going to use this as a learning experience and relive my youth. Had a couple decent race bikes in my younger days, collected dust, took up too much space, gave them away to a young kid who shown appreciation for what they were. And here I am now full circle looking to put together an old lightweight steel machine to ride again.

So far, took the bars off, pulled the cranks and bb came out no problem packed full of grease inside. Started chipping off the respray paint to reveal the cool original blue color trying to see of the PEUGEOT lettering was left on. We'll see. It'll be fun!
Again, thanks for the feedback!

mixteup 08-01-18 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by dwing (Post 20482961)
there's a rust hole on non-drive stay.

Wait - Are you saying there's a rust hole in the seat stay or chain stay?
Photo ?
Could be a deal killer, as it might indicate more damage than is obvious - Just sayin' ..........

dwing 08-01-18 05:00 PM

Here's the hole. I took a rag and cleaned it up.. looks like somebody took a file to it to investigate rust issue?
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c4d17a802c.jpg

mixteup 08-01-18 05:11 PM

Hmm - That doesn't look too good :(
If it were me (and it ain't), and I REALLY wanted that frame, I might strip it, soak a day or 3 in oxalic to remove the rest of the rust, and then braze a little patch over that, IF the stay proved not to be too weakened by internal rust.
I'm sure others might have a different opinion, as in - Fuggedaboutit , and move on .............

OTOH - Now that I look closer - Are you sure it was rust?
It looks like there might have been a severe tire rubbing issue there - Enough to wear though the stay ?


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