I was bumped by a car for the first time tonight
I was heading straight, flashing lights were on, brand new bike (literally, my third ride on this bike) and someone starts pulling up to a stop sign to turn right. Stupid me, I assumed he was stopped to check for traffic, which would mean he would be looking straight at me...then I realized at the very last second, oh **** he’s still inching forward!! So I hit the brakes and swerve a little, he bumps my back tire. I immediately know my bike’s fine, and I’m fine.
He stops in the middle of the road to apologize, “omg did I hit you” (yeah of course you did, why else are you stopping) “I’m so sorry I didn’t see you,” then he holds up traffic, all these cars start honking at him. “Is my car okay” (I don’t really give a ****, he’s driving a jaguar so it’s nothing to him) and meanwhile he’s got a bunch of angry drivers telling him to move the **** over. I just said I’m fine and rode off I kind of wish I didn’t do that, but I just had this thought pop into my mind that I can’t fix stupid so I just left, I guess. I was completely on edge for the remainder of my ride. Anyway that’s my stupid story, I had to tell someone. |
Glad you're OK.
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Never assume they see you.
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Ya... at least it was just a bump, I was hit once coming down a hill by a car that decided to take a left turn directly into me. Apparently "the sun was in my eyes" was their excuse... I ended up 30 feet from the point of impact with helmet, and bike completely destroyed, brightside though, got a new carbon bike out of it! I was also relatively unharmed, just getting some really scraped knees.
Now I don't trust any vehicle, ever, I treat every single one as the worst possible driver and always assume they will do something super dumb. I still remember what it was like to bike around pretty carefree, cars passing inches away, zooming past intersections with cars waiting to turn, good times... |
You have to be part matador sometimes, in order to survive at this sport (i.e., riding in city traffic).
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I'll take a guess that a mobile phone was nearby, and perhaps had the drivers attention.
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I'm glad that you're ok. On January 11th one of the guys in my club was hit and wasn't so lucky. He was killed on the spot. Never assume we're seen.
Jon |
Originally Posted by vishnu77
(Post 20805222)
I can’t fix stupid
Glad you're OK. |
Originally Posted by joelcool
(Post 20805769)
This.
Glad you're OK. |
Happened to me too many times, riding a motorcycle and bicycle. They always say the same bull*****: "Oh, I didn't see you!"
That's why I observe the Idaho Stop, as described by an actual Idaho bike patrolman. If a stop sign intersection is clear, I'm slow rolling through. If there's a car behind me and the rest of the way is clear, I'm not even slowing down. Even if there's another vehicle approaching from ahead or the sides I'll roll through after making a snap judgment about whether they'll reach the intersection before me. I always assume the driver behind me will hit me. At red lights I stop and go as soon as the way is clear. If there's a vehicle approaching me from behind and doesn't seem to be slowing I'm going, or at least turning right. Always minimize your time spent in any intersection, whether stop signs or traffic lights. Those places are kill zones. Don't blast through heedlessly or recklessly. How you do it depends on your own reaction times, comfort zone and conditions. But it's never a good idea to linger at, in or near an intersection longer than absolutely necessary. |
Originally Posted by vishnu77
(Post 20805222)
I was heading straight, flashing lights were on, brand new bike (literally, my third ride on this bike) and someone starts pulling up to a stop sign to turn right. Stupid me, I assumed he was stopped to check for traffic, which would mean he would be looking straight at me...then I realized at the very last second, oh **** he’s still inching forward!! So I hit the brakes and swerve a little, he bumps my back tire. I immediately know my bike’s fine, and I’m fine.
He stops in the middle of the road to apologize, “omg did I hit you” (yeah of course you did, why else are you stopping) “I’m so sorry I didn’t see you,” then he holds up traffic, all these cars start honking at him. “Is my car okay” (I don’t really give a ****, he’s driving a jaguar so it’s nothing to him) and meanwhile he’s got a bunch of angry drivers telling him to move the **** over. I just said I’m fine and rode off I kind of wish I didn’t do that, but I just had this thought pop into my mind that I can’t fix stupid so I just left, I guess. I was completely on edge for the remainder of my ride. Anyway that’s my stupid story, I had to tell someone. Either way as someone else said never assume they see you. I would go as far as say that assume you are invisible and nobody sees you even when you think you are making eye contact |
As a fellow rider who was hit by a car about three months ago, you have my condolences. It's traumatic to get knocked off your bike. I also think it hurts, upon sharing the experience, to hear back a lot of advice on how to ride safely. (Don't assume... Pretend you're invisible... etc.)
In my case, I was on a bike path crossing a street with the green cycling signal, right behind another rider, and a car ran a red light and put me on the hood and then the ground. My bike was smashed, so was my helmet. It was winter, so I had a lot of clothes on, but still had road rash on my face and neck. My boot and clothes were torn. No one honked -- in this case, people just started calling 911 I guess, because the police and fire were there right away. The driver stopped and was cited by the police. If I had a functional bike, I might have ridden off right in that moment. It's disorienting, crazy adrenaline. Turned out I broke my thumb and had a separated shoulder joint, maybe a concussion, but in that moment, it's more like WHAT THE F HAPPENED! OH I'M STILL ALIVE!!! Anyway, I hope you can take it easy, find some peaceful riding on the bike and get back into it. It's a big perspective shift to all of a sudden get knocked down when you're out enjoying your bike. |
Originally Posted by ljsense
(Post 20806240)
As a fellow rider who was hit by a car about three months ago, you have my condolences. It's traumatic to get knocked off your bike. I also think it hurts, upon sharing the experience, to hear back a lot of advice on how to ride safely. (Don't assume... Pretend you're invisible... etc.)
In my case, I was on a bike path crossing a street with the green cycling signal, right behind another rider, and a car ran a red light and put me on the hood and then the ground. My bike was smashed, so was my helmet. It was winter, so I had a lot of clothes on, but still had road rash on my face and neck. My boot and clothes were torn. No one honked -- in this case, people just started calling 911 I guess, because the police and fire were there right away. The driver stopped and was cited by the police. If I had a functional bike, I might have ridden off right in that moment. It's disorienting, crazy adrenaline. Turned out I broke my thumb and had a separated shoulder joint, maybe a concussion, but in that moment, it's more like WHAT THE F HAPPENED! OH I'M STILL ALIVE!!! Anyway, I hope you can take it easy, find some peaceful riding on the bike and get back into it. It's a big perspective shift to all of a sudden get knocked down when you're out enjoying your bike. As someone who rides in one of the most populated and car centric parts of the country I am constantly re-evaluating how important cycling is to me compared to my safety. We have tons of dedicated bike lanes here and laws that favor cyclists but we have 100x more drivers then cyclists and every time I look into a car when I'm riding I see people with their phones in their hands. The latest thing I see is people with phones sitting in mounts on the dashboard with Facetime calls or other video playing. Paying attention to the road has really become secondary to most drivers now. |
I am still not clear how this happened. If an oncoming car were turning right and you were going straight your paths shouldn't have crossed. If the car was coming from your left and turning right your paths shouldn't have crosdsed, if the car was coming from tyour right and turning right your paths would have crossed only if you rode in front of him ... which is sort of what seems happened, but I am not sure.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
(Post 20806357)
I am still not clear how this happened. If an oncoming car were turning right and you were going straight your paths shouldn't have crossed. If the car was coming from your left and turning right your paths shouldn't have crosdsed, if the car was coming from tyour right and turning right your paths would have crossed only if you rode in front of him ... which is sort of what seems happened, but I am not sure.
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Glad you came out okay.
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Dangerous sport these days.. Never crossed my mind growing up though I'm sure the risk was still there. Fearlessness and indestructible mindset of youth I suppose.
I took my new bike out Tuesday just to get a feel for the setup, a couple times up and down our neighborhood private drive. Just as I was returning to my driveway a truck driven by a lady that had been checking mole traps at my neighbors started backing out of the driveway at pace, strait into my path. I started waving my arms and yelling while moving quickly to the side of the road and the driver finally stopped and pulled forward. They rolled down their window and apologized while giving the often repeated comment, I never saw you, you were in my blind spot. Glad you are OK. Glad I assumed the driver didn't see me. |
Originally Posted by ljsense
(Post 20806240)
...I also think it hurts, upon sharing the experience, to hear back a lot of advice on how to ride safely. (Don't assume... Pretend you're invisible... etc.)
Anyway, I hope you can take it easy, find some peaceful riding on the bike and get back into it. It's a big perspective shift to all of a sudden get knocked down when you're out enjoying your bike. A friend who was injured around the same time last year (knocked off her bike by an unleashed dog) needed a year to recover mentally and physically. For awhile she didn't even use her trainer. But toward the end of 2018 she got into some Zwift activities suitable to her fitness level and found a compatible virtual cycling club that she found supportive. And she's recently begun riding outdoors again, always in a group of compatible friends. Helped rebuild her confidence. |
Originally Posted by canklecat
(Post 20806203)
Happened to me too many times, riding a motorcycle and bicycle. They always say the same bull*****: "Oh, I didn't see you!"
That's why I observe the Idaho Stop, as described by an actual Idaho bike patrolman. If a stop sign intersection is clear, I'm slow rolling through. If there's a car behind me and the rest of the way is clear, I'm not even slowing down. Even if there's another vehicle approaching from ahead or the sides I'll roll through after making a snap judgment about whether they'll reach the intersection before me. I always assume the driver behind me will hit me. At red lights I stop and go as soon as the way is clear. If there's a vehicle approaching me from behind and doesn't seem to be slowing I'm going, or at least turning right. Always minimize your time spent in any intersection, whether stop signs or traffic lights. Those places are kill zones. Don't blast through heedlessly or recklessly. How you do it depends on your own reaction times, comfort zone and conditions. But it's never a good idea to linger at, in or near an intersection longer than absolutely necessary. Intersections are the most likely place to have a collision. |
Originally Posted by mcours2006
(Post 20805280)
Never assume they see you.
Glad you're ok. |
"Oh shot their not going to stop" is a pretty traumatic young to realize, it kicks you into fight or flight mode. Like you said, you can't fix stupid, and you can't start a physical fight over it, which leaves flight. We're just primed that way. You said you regret leaving, no one can blame you. With no injury and no damage to the bike you wouldn't have been able to get a lawyer to work on contingency.
Glad you and the bike are ok. |
Glad it was just a bump. I had a similar experience once, but quite a bit worse; the driver claimed that he had the right of way as he was turning left and I was going straight, and proceeded to cuss me out as I was laying in the street. The police officer did not agree with the driver's assessment.
Originally Posted by Maelochs
(Post 20806357)
I am still not clear how this happened. If an oncoming car were turning right and you were going straight your paths shouldn't have crossed. If the car was coming from your left and turning right your paths shouldn't have crosdsed, if the car was coming from tyour right and turning right your paths would have crossed only if you rode in front of him ... which is sort of what seems happened, but I am not sure.
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Take the full lane at intersections.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
(Post 20806357)
I am still not clear how this happened. If an oncoming car were turning right and you were going straight your paths shouldn't have crossed. If the car was coming from your left and turning right your paths shouldn't have crosdsed, if the car was coming from tyour right and turning right your paths would have crossed only if you rode in front of him ... which is sort of what seems happened, but I am not sure.
Either way, glad he's ok! |
Originally Posted by Maelochs
(Post 20806357)
I am still not clear how this happened. If an oncoming car were turning right and you were going straight your paths shouldn't have crossed. If the car was coming from your left and turning right your paths shouldn't have crosdsed, if the car was coming from tyour right and turning right your paths would have crossed only if you rode in front of him ... which is sort of what seems happened, but I am not sure.
I'm man enough to admit when it happened to me, I was the driver & it was joggers that caught the blunt end of my stupidity. |
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