Originally Posted by Trevtassie
(Post 21408112)
There is a bit of a difference you can cover a lot of ground in a car.(yes I know bikes can too, but a lot don't) Our government here in Australia doesn't have it's head up it's but and has introduced some sensible rules. You need exercise so you can ride your bike, or go for a jog, but not stupidly far from home. You must socially distance. Groups of unrelated or non households can't exceed 2 people. You can't just drive around randomly, you have to have a reasonable excuse. You can go to the beach, but if the beach gets crowded it gets closed immediately. Some states allow fishing, but again near home and with social distance. Basically if the mob stuff it up, it gets closed down and people get fined or locked up.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b472bdfd3.jpeg Since I need to drive for work sometimes I can definitely see way less traffic. The "great" thing for us here is that the USA is a perfect example of how not to deal with CV-19, the government goes "we don't want to end up like the USA" and the population on average goes "nope, that would be a bad idea" and toes the line. |
Originally Posted by livedarklions
(Post 21409076)
I'm also in New England and I'm solo riding as is specifically permitted under the rules in place in the two states I ride in (I live a few miles from the border). Cars and bikes scattered on the road is not a problem outside, groups of people congregating are. If you're riding close to someone else than you're a problem. If you're keeping your distance from everyone, than you're not. I'm not sure anything can be done safely outside in a crowded urban environment, but I don't live in one and I'm avoiding riding to or through them right now.
The big issue with driving is more about where you're going to get out of the car than it is with the actual driving. Long story short--are you riding somewhere where you are in close proximity with other people? If not, you're not a part of any problem. If so, maybe take a break or change your route. |
Originally Posted by asgelle
(Post 21409023)
You're not as bad as they are. You're worse. In a car, the exhaled droplets and aerosols are virtually entirely confined within the passenger compartment. On your bike, you're spewing possibly virus laden material into the atmosphere for others to inhale.
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Here in Wisconsin, when the Governor announced the "Safer at Home" policy, he also waived the entrance fees at State Parks, so people could do something healthy outside. Unfortunately, some people abused this and used the parks in large groups, vandalized facilities, and dumped trash everywhere. So today, the Governor closed many of the parks (including the one closest to me, through which I routinely ride to get to the nice rural roads on top of the escarpment). This is why we can't have nice things. :notamused:
https://fox11online.com/news/coronav...reas-shut-down |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 21409546)
Here in Wisconsin, when the Governor announced the "Safer at Home" policy, he also waived the entrance fees at State Parks, so people could do something healthy outside. Unfortunately, some people abused this and used the parks in large groups, vandalized facilities, and dumped trash everywhere. So today, the Governor closed many of the parks (including the one closest to me, through which I routinely ride to get to the nice rural roads on top of the escarpment). This is why we can't have nice things. :notamused:
https://fox11online.com/news/coronav...reas-shut-down |
Originally Posted by Steve B.
(Post 21409753)
They could alleviate some of the crowding and gathering by leaving the park open to access but just closing the parking lots. That eliminates anybody that drives to the parks and they would only see folks who walked or biked in. Many fewer folks in that scenario.
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I have thought they should close the parking lots in the state forest near here and make parking illegal. But I'm not convinced that isn't just selfishness on my part, since I ride my bike out there and most people are afraid to do that
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Originally Posted by krecik
(Post 21409338)
Roads are for vehicles. I don't see the problem...
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 21409778)
I suspect people would just park on the side of the road and create even more of a problem.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21410101)
Actually, many (if not most) states’ laws give cyclists the right to use most roads. So there’s that. Hope you don’t drive.
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Originally Posted by krecik
(Post 21410548)
Otherwise ride your local sidewalks
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 21409546)
Here in Wisconsin, when the Governor announced the "Safer at Home" policy, he also waived the entrance fees at State Parks, so people could do something healthy outside. Unfortunately, some people abused this and used the parks in large groups, vandalized facilities, and dumped trash everywhere. So today, the Governor closed many of the parks (including the one closest to me, through which I routinely ride to get to the nice rural roads on top of the escarpment). This is why we can't have nice things. :notamused:
https://fox11online.com/news/coronav...reas-shut-down Tim |
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Actually if you are in a relatively new car, you are quite safe as most have a cabin filter. Why not go for a nice drive? Just because I bike, I do not hate cars.
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I was out on my bike riding the Burke-Gilman and Sammamish River Trails about two weeks ago on a Wednesday afternoon. This is in the north Seattle area. You would have thought it was a sunny summer Sunday afternoon it was so crowded. A lot of bikes, runners, walkers, rollerbladers, stroller pushers, and many people with their kids and dogs. That's why I avoid this trail on the weekends!
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21408191)
How are you certain? My car will turn 4 in early July. Just went over 10,200 miles today while I was picking up my cat from the hospital. Drove him there Monday for an emergency and then went to a grocery store.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 21415986)
You may be one of the few people who drives less than I do.
Just as the weather was starting to turn and I was planning to resume a bike-train-bike commute there I was first told that I had to stay in Philly all the time to spread out people in the department in case one of us got sick. Then it was "work from home," so I don't even get to do my 2 mile commute into town. |
Originally Posted by rydabent
(Post 21410915)
Actually if you are in a relatively new car, you are quite safe as most have a cabin filter. Why not go for a nice drive? Just because I bike, I do not hate cars.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21416122)
My mileage would be lower, but at some point this winter or last fall I started having to go to my NJ office a couple of times a week to keep our president happy. About 35 miles round trip. At least because I was officially based in Philly I could put in for mileage and tolls.
Just as the weather was starting to turn and I was planning to resume a bike-train-bike commute there I was first told that I had to stay in Philly all the time to spread out people in the department in case one of us got sick. Then it was "work from home," so I don't even get to do my 2 mile commute into town. |
There's a lot of people in here that "just don't get it" with the "why" and "what" different aspects of the orders are meant to achieve.
Restaurants, theaters, malls, etc..........have what in common? Large crowds close together. Closer than 6' together. What's that got to do with a lone biker on the road or jogger exactly? Italy and Spain, enough people still rode bikes in groups and went to cafes that the whole "ride alone" thing wasn't working. In the US, we're not a cycling country. So it isn't the same threat to spread. So of ya'll need to take a seat yo. |
Originally Posted by burnthesheep
(Post 21416183)
In the US, we're not a cycling country. So it isn't the same threat to spread.
The other new sight is a lot of runners in bike lanes so they can avoid people on the narrow sidewalk of my old city. Many of them don’t bother to get back on the sidewalk as you are coming towards them. |
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21416284)
I went for a ride through center city Philly and other areas on Easter. Plenty of people on bikes. I have even been seeing families with young children riding on streets you would never see them on during normal times. Depends where you live.
The other new sight is a lot of runners in bike lanes so they can avoid people on the narrow sidewalk of my old city. Many of them don’t bother to get back on the sidewalk as you are coming towards them. |
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