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Zieleman 01-07-13 07:52 AM

Drillium Dude Wannabe
 
Being inspired by the beautiful work by DD and the presence of a lend Dremel a some time on my hands, I thought I'd give it shot.

Some left-over campy dt-shifters:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8465/8...9ce9f05c_c.jpg

They're definitely not perfect, but I forgot to follow DD's posted instructions step-by-step.

Ex Pres 01-07-13 08:09 AM

What do they look like on the "right" side? :)

A good first go, but IMO you need to get rid of the P's (probably easier at the beginning)

Cache 01-07-13 09:02 AM

A for effort, but don't quit your day job yet.

randyjawa 01-07-13 09:08 AM

Don't give up your day job.

Sorry to be negative, but the result of your work looks amateurish, poorly planned and unfinished. That said, no one expects perfection from a novice. If it is in you to keep at it, do so and your skill level will increase. Be prepared to make a mistake or two, as you learn. My guess is that Drillium Dude did not get it perfect, the first time out of the gate, either.

I have built lots of bikes, and not all of them turned out perfect. Even today, after hundreds of builds, I still goof, now and again.

Pars 01-07-13 09:13 AM

Not bad for a first try. I'd probably practice on less valuable parts than Campy however :)

jbchybridrider 01-07-13 09:25 AM

I just see the main excavation work done. Go at them with a small round and flat file and a little patience and they'll come up a treat.

puchfinnland 01-07-13 09:33 AM

When you guys have done this work yourself then give the guy comment,
It's not that difficult but it's not that easy either!
it looks pretty good to me, I might not have gone so thin on the top but that is taste.

i did one seat post and it was a lot of work to make it look good.

Andycapp 01-07-13 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by jbchybridrider (Post 15129132)
I just see the main excavation work done. Go at them with a small round and flat file and a little patience and they'll come up a treat.

+1 They don't look too bad, just not quite finished ;) Get your self a set of jewelers files to smooth out the insides. Depending on the bits you have for your Dremel you could maybe get a bit closer with that before going to the file work, let the cutter do it's job- don't push too hard or let it chatter. Slow and steady wins the race here, if get in a hurry you risk removing too much.

-Andy

JPZ66 01-07-13 10:51 AM

Being at work, I can't see the photos, but just a general comment about cutting aluminum with files, burrs and bits...keep the cutting surfaces lubed with WD-40 so the alloy does not clog them.

Joe

Italuminium 01-07-13 10:55 AM

He, those lil' triangles at the base of the teardrop shape are a beehutch to get rid of. As others suggested, remove the P's, polish and fill in the filed area's with some model paint. I'll post some images of my own try (and subsequent failure) once I unearth them - it's a bit of a mess in casa Italuminium at the moment due to my move :)

Chombi 01-07-13 12:53 PM

I'm not sure, but you might be able to just get rid of the center web on those levers. Simplex had been making levers with what seems to be much less material on it without problems.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44...Picture037.jpg
Although these are retrofrictions (which might lessen some of the stress on the levers),
IIRC, they also had a version with similar minimalist design that was just plain friction style.

Chombi

shoota 01-07-13 12:57 PM

I'm not gonna lie it hurts me a little to see those chopped up. What's the purpose of this again?

rootboy 01-07-13 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by JPZ66 (Post 15129449)
Being at work, I can't see the photos, but just a general comment about cutting aluminum with files, burrs and bits...keep the cutting surfaces lubed with WD-40 so the alloy does not clog them.

Joe

Good advice Joe. Especially with fine little Swiss jeweler's files. And ESPECIALLY with aluminum. But you know what I use? Chalk. Stick is about an inch in diameter and four inches long. Meant for filling the teeth in files so they don't load up. Works great.

As for the OP's efforts here, I agree, this is one tough crowd. A little more work cleaning up and these will be nice, Zieleman.

rootboy 01-07-13 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by shoota (Post 15129945)
I'm not gonna lie it hurts me a little to see those chopped up. What's the purpose of this again?

Me too, a bit. I'm very ambivalent about altering Nuovo Record parts. But you should see the key fobs I'm going to do! ;)
Well, at least the OP used the later style levers.

JPZ66 01-07-13 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 15129974)
Good advice Joe. Especially with fine little Swiss jeweler's files. And ESPECIALLY with aluminum. But you know what I use? Chalk. Stick is about an inch in diameter and four inches long. Meant for filling the teeth in files so they don't load up. Works great.

As for the OP's efforts here, I agree, this is one tough crowd. A little more work cleaning up and these will be nice, Zieleman.



Is this some specific type of chalk ? Hadn't heard of this and would like to know more. I'd much rather have a dry 'lubricant' for these ops.

Joe

Catnap 01-07-13 01:54 PM

i think it's a great start, but not quite finished. get those little jeweler's hand files and go to town.

shoota 01-07-13 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 15129985)
Me too, a bit. I'm very ambivalent about altering Nuovo Record parts. But you should see the key fobs I'm going to do! ;)
Well, at least the OP used the later style levers.

I can't wait to see them, I've always wanted one just don't know how to go about doing it.

rootboy 01-07-13 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by shoota (Post 15130208)
I can't wait to see them, I've always wanted one just don't know how to go about doing it.

I'll try to remember to let you know when pics available. I'm going to use levers, since I have some old ones Not sure if you saw Drillium Dude's nifto derailleur plate version. Worth another look here. Might try one of these too.
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/.../Campyfor1.jpg

rootboy 01-07-13 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by JPZ66 (Post 15130151)
Is this some specific type of chalk ? Hadn't heard of this and would like to know more. I'd much rather have a dry 'lubricant' for these ops.

Joe

PM sent Joe. I'll send you a hunk.:)

Drillium Dude 01-07-13 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by jbchybridrider (Post 15129132)
I just see the main excavation work done. Go at them with a small round and flat file and a little patience and they'll come up a treat.

This exactly - great job on the main drilling portion! Proportions look good, so a little file-work will finish them off very nicely. I'm looking forward to another pic of the final result :)

BTW, keep the webs! Although these are the thicker later models, they still flex too much and can break if they're completely hollowed out. Don't ask me how I know ;)

DD

Drillium Dude 01-07-13 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by shoota (Post 15129945)
What's the purpose of this again?

Cool-points :)

DD

Zieleman 01-07-13 02:32 PM

Thanks for the feedback y'all! They are indeed not quite finished... I tried to do some finishing touches with sandpaper and a dremel touch-up bit and removed the p's, but will probably need the above mentioned juwelers-files to make it look better.
This one is meant to be a learning project before i start to drill on other stuff (though I already had a NR RD in mind...) and all your comments are very helpful when it comes to critics and ideas on shape, tools and standards. I'll post some more pics of the progress when able.

Cheers!

rootboy 01-07-13 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Drillium Dude (Post 15130311)

BTW, keep the webs! Although these are the thicker later models, they still flex too much and can break if they're completely hollowed out. Don't ask me how I know ;)
DD

Important info D.D. I like the center web too, for aesthetic reasons. Just needs to dress it a bit and remove the P's and they'll look great.

shoota 01-07-13 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by rootboy (Post 15130295)
I'll try to remember to let you know when pics available. I'm going to use levers, since I have some old ones Not sure if you saw Drillium Dude's nifto derailleur plate version. Worth another look here. Might try one of these too.
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/.../Campyfor1.jpg

Very cool!


Originally Posted by Drillium Dude (Post 15130314)
Cool-points :)

DD

Good enough for me :)

Italuminium 01-07-13 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Drillium Dude (Post 15130311)

BTW, keep the webs! Although these are the thicker later models, they still flex too much and can break if they're completely hollowed out. Don't ask me how I know ;)

DD

Oh bollocks, I think I went to far with my shifters then. Ah well, they're meant for the ALAN, which is a suicide bike anyway. YOLO. Campanyolo.


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