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prairiepedaler 08-02-19 02:05 PM

Torelli Stainless Columbus Frame - $4k
 
Worth the coin?

http://torelli.com/shop/il-30/

tinrobot 08-02-19 03:21 PM

It's pretty, but a little expensive for what it is.

As reference, the Ritte Snob is a stainless frame for less than $2300
https://ritte.cc/collections/framese...nless-frameset

alcjphil 08-02-19 03:36 PM

I took a look at the frame geometry chart and was left scratching my head. If they can't even get that right they are not getting my $4000($5250 CDN)
Talk about lost in translation

Seattle Forrest 08-02-19 04:12 PM

That's a lot of money for a very heavy frame. If something about it is compelling to you than it's worth it, but for me no way.

Dean V 08-02-19 04:16 PM

Only you can decide if it is worth it to you.
Plenty of people pay more for a Chinese made Pinarello Dogma.

shelbyfv 08-02-19 05:03 PM

I don't understand the attraction of stainless for a bike frame. For the price, you could have Ti. It's not like regular steel frames are rapidly rusting away. Is there some ride quality beyond regular steel?

prairiepedaler 08-02-19 05:29 PM

I can think of many other things I'd do with c$5200 (like buy 50, $100 dollar bikes for example) over buying any bike. I only found out about torelli yesterday. I'd spend up to $3500 on a custom bike, fully complete with parts and wheels, but not that type of money on a frame. Stainless looks neat but it gives the impression that it's a frame awaiting a paintjob, sort of incomplete.

shelbyfv 08-02-19 05:52 PM

So you weren't interested in getting one:foo:

Dean V 08-02-19 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by shelbyfv (Post 21057283)
I don't understand the attraction of stainless for a bike frame. For the price, you could have Ti. It's not like regular steel frames are rapidly rusting away. Is there some ride quality beyond regular steel?

Being stainless is more incidental than actually the objective. They are a very high tensile steel which happens to have the added benefit of being stainless.

Dean V 08-02-19 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by prairiepedaler (Post 21057326)
I can think of many other things I'd do with c$5200 (like buy 50, $100 dollar bikes for example) over buying any bike. I only found out about torelli yesterday. I'd spend up to $3500 on a custom bike, fully complete with parts and wheels, but not that type of money on a frame. Stainless looks neat but it gives the impression that it's a frame awaiting a paintjob, sort of incomplete.

You obviously aren't the person they are targeting with this.
I would much rather have this than 50x$100 bikes cluttering up my garage and all of them requiring maintenance and offering mediocre performance at best!

Seattle Forrest 08-02-19 10:22 PM

That only leaves $200 to hire 49 people to ride behind you.

shelbyfv 08-03-19 05:35 AM

Why would anyone want 50 $100 (dollar) bikes? Think of the storage issues:foo:

Gconan 08-03-19 09:48 AM

The only one that wants 50 100$ bikes is a department store manager.

Gconan 08-03-19 09:57 AM

But for those really interested in stainless steel WARAKIN FRAMESET

prairiepedaler 08-03-19 10:09 AM

Some really good bikes can be had for $100! (Not new ones of course). I use the 50 bike reference to illustrate value compared to the stainless frame. I'd prefer to own and ride 3 or 5 different bikes, tops. No, I am not buying nor entertaining buying the Torelli. I posted for feedback on whether a modern frame like the stainless is worth that type of money. To very few, with money to burn, it's of no consequence. For most though probably not. For some, $4k is nothing. I don't see $4k in value there. $4k for a good used dodge ram maybe.

Gconan 08-03-19 10:30 AM

They are obviously not selling like hot cakes. It is way, way over priced. Check out the Warakin. Much more reasonable price for those interested in stainless steel.

Sillyak 08-03-19 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by Dean V (Post 21057211)
Only you can decide if it is worth it to you.
Plenty of people pay more for a Chinese made Pinarello Dogma.

Pinarello frame are Made in China?? I always assumed for the crazy price they were Made in Italy.

Dean V 08-04-19 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by Sillyak (Post 21058494)
Pinarello frame are Made in China?? I always assumed for the crazy price they were Made in Italy.

Yes, Chinese. They have been for quite a while.

Fox Farm 08-04-19 04:28 AM

The comment about for that price you could have Ti is spot on. For that money, you could have a Moots, or for 1/3 you could have a Lynskey.

Kimmo 08-04-19 08:07 AM

I think the prestige of this frame is that you've obviously paid someone a lot of money to spend a lot of time to polish the stainless.

Ever tried to polish SS, let alone in the shape of a bike frame? You'd have to offer me $60 an hour before I'd even consider it.

Nothing sparkles like blood, sweat and tears.

rosefarts 08-04-19 05:48 PM

Delorian's weren't the best value but they sure were cool.

bruce19 08-05-19 06:39 AM

Not to me.

Lemond1985 08-05-19 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Kimmo (Post 21059104)
I think the prestige of this frame is that you've obviously paid someone a lot of money to spend a lot of time to polish the stainless.

Ever tried to polish SS, let alone in the shape of a bike frame? You'd have to offer me $60 an hour before I'd even consider it.

Nothing sparkles like blood, sweat and tears.

It's a $1000 frame ... with a $3000 shoe shine. "Mr. Torelli, go get your shine box." :D

Abe_Froman 08-05-19 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Dean V (Post 21058904)
Yes, Chinese. They have been for quite a while.

Are you saying you would PREFER the bikes be made somewhere with inferior manufacturing infrastructure? I've never understood the anti Chinese production thing.

indyfabz 08-05-19 07:26 AM

Stainless steel is real.


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