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sour01 10-31-19 08:45 AM

Iq2 power meter
 
Has anyone seen this? Any thoughts?

https://achuje.store/products/cyclin...31066410418221

Robert A 10-31-19 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by sour01 (Post 21188288)
Has anyone seen this? Any thoughts?

https://achuje.store/products/cyclin...31066410418221

I'm curious, too. How does it attach?

MattTheHat 10-31-19 08:55 AM

My understanding is that it's vaporware or at least not yet being offered. I'm guessing that's a phishing site trying to get you to enter your card info. Be VERY cautious.

datlas 10-31-19 08:57 AM

I don't think anyone has actually seen one that works. I would not bet on it. Vaporware is likely.

MattTheHat 10-31-19 09:03 AM

Yes, it's a scam. Reported yesterday on their own Kickstarter page. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects.../posts/2667960

PepeM 10-31-19 09:10 AM

$25 :lol:

smashndash 11-01-19 09:29 AM

OK so now that the kickstarter which raised 2 million usd has been posted so we have reason to believe it’s not a complete scam...

did anyone notice that the q factor increases by 16mm on each side? They claim that people cannot distinguish between mountain and road. I’m not certain this is true, especially if one tries to ride in typical road conditions with sharp, high cadence efforts. Some people claim Q factor matters a lot, some people claim it matters little. I think that most people can adjust to a range of Q factors if toe angle (cleat angle) and foot alignment (wedging) are adjusted. I have to wedge my cleats significantly, but I notice that riding with a slightly wider stance and slightly duckfooted can have a similar effect, but feels a bit weird.

The difference between dura ace and XTR can be as small as 14mm (148 to 162). So to increase from 148 to 180mm is a big jump in my opinion. That’s more than double.

Anyone have experience trying to ride really wide cranks in a road context?

MattTheHat 11-01-19 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by smashndash (Post 21189997)
OK so now that the kickstarter which raised 2 million usd has been posted so we have reason to believe it’s not a complete scam...

did anyone notice that the q factor increases by 16mm on each side? They claim that people cannot distinguish between mountain and road. I’m not certain this is true, especially if one tries to ride in typical road conditions with sharp, high cadence efforts. Some people claim Q factor matters a lot, some people claim it matters little. I think that most people can adjust to a range of Q factors if toe angle (cleat angle) and foot alignment (wedging) are adjusted. I have to wedge my cleats significantly, but I notice that riding with a slightly wider stance and slightly duckfooted can have a similar effect, but feels a bit weird.

The difference between dura ace and XTR can be as small as 14mm (148 to 162). So to increase from 148 to 180mm is a big jump in my opinion. That’s more than double.

Anyone have experience trying to ride really wide cranks in a road context?

It maters enough that there are pedal spacers that are what, 1mm? I would think 32mm would be enough to cause problems for many.

smashndash 11-01-19 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by MattTheHat (Post 21190138)
It maters enough that there are pedal spacers that are what, 1mm? I would think 32mm would be enough to cause problems for many.

True. I also think this would adversely affect pedal clearance when cornering. Considering that racers/aggressive riders are the key demographic for power meters (even at $180 or so), this is a significant disadvantage. I would want to know how much lean angle this would take away. Maybe I can simulate this and post some numbers.

datlas 11-01-19 11:24 AM

The spacer idea is dead. Now plan is pedal based. Old news:

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2019/05/...ng-pedals.html

PepeM 11-01-19 11:29 AM

Wild prediction: Backers will get nothing.

I have zero knowledge about this whole thing btw.

datlas 11-01-19 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by PepeM (Post 21190202)
Wild prediction: Backers will get nothing.

I have zero knowledge about this whole thing btw.

I think you will be right. The DCR headline says "Backers will get Pedals" but I think it should be "Backers MAY get Pedals....but may get just the shaft!"

MattTheHat 11-01-19 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21190192)
The spacer idea is dead. Now plan is pedal based. Old news:

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2019/05/...ng-pedals.html

Yep...vaporware.

MattTheHat 11-01-19 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by smashndash (Post 21190160)
True. I also think this would adversely affect pedal clearance when cornering. Considering that racers/aggressive riders are the key demographic for power meters (even at $180 or so), this is a significant disadvantage. I would want to know how much lean angle this would take away. Maybe I can simulate this and post some numbers.

I didn't even think of pedal strikes, but yes, it seems like that would be an issue. I really like the idea of a universal power meter that can be moved from bike to bike and which lets me use mountain bike pedals.

Maybe someone else will deliver on this idea one day.

Sy Reene 11-01-19 05:59 PM

Arofly for the win

Seattle Forrest 11-01-19 09:42 PM

If it sounds too good to be true...

surgeonstone 11-02-19 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by sour01 (Post 21188288)
Has anyone seen this? Any thoughts?

https://achuje.store/products/cyclin...31066410418221

I already have the most reliable, cheapest power meter, my brain. It tells me how hard I’m pedaling via pain signals. Nothing more accurate.

DrIsotope 11-02-19 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by surgeonstone (Post 21191356)
I already have the most reliable, cheapest power meter, my brain. It tells me how hard I’m pedaling via pain signals. Nothing more accurate.

While I recognize that your post was likely in jest, others might not. The brain is absolutely the worst power meter on the market (commonly referred to as the Butt Dyno) and can vary in terms of accuracy by +/-30%. Or more.

Relative perceived exertion and power output are often miles apart.


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