Polarized training
Anybody still using polarized?
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Very few people ever use polarized to begin with.
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Hmmm. Seemed like the benefits were good, and the process not too intricate. Record keeping up to the individual, of course. It seemed like a lot of folks deep-dived on what the intense phases needed to look like. Why did few embrace it?
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I had a go at it. Don't remember exactly when that was, maybe at 68 y.o? Quickly saw that 80/20 wasn't possible for me, not nearly enough recovery. The other thing was that it just wasn't fun. Too regimented. I'm not elite, not getting paid, no podiums in my future.
I just came back from a 10-day backpack with my wife, I had 28 hrs. of zone 1 over 10 days. I feel pretty good. We'll take the tandem on a group ride this coming Sunday, see what we've got. So that's sort of the spirit, just not the numbers. |
Originally Posted by Road Fan
(Post 21123236)
Hmmm. Seemed like the benefits were good, and the process not too intricate. Record keeping up to the individual, of course. It seemed like a lot of folks deep-dived on what the intense phases needed to look like. Why did few embrace it?
Because it's not practical and not specific. |
Polarised is the only plan I know that has coherent science behind it. But I do quasi-palarized: 4x8’s twice during the week plus lsd and maximum overload weight training. Set it up to do 80/20 and I’m probably close but don’t really track it. Tremendous impact on my cycling.
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Originally Posted by Gyrine
(Post 21133618)
Polarised is the only plan I know that has coherent science behind it. But I do quasi-palarized: 4x8’s twice during the week plus lsd and maximum overload weight training. Set it up to do 80/20 and I’m probably close but don’t really track it. Tremendous impact on my cycling.
What does 80/20 mean to you? How do you actually apply it to your training? Because unless you do over ten workouts a week, the two workouts you're doing plus the weight training is definitely not polarized training, quasi, semi, or anything related. Hence my comment that it's not practical nor specific. |
Maybe I'm too ignorant, but I thought all I need to do (and have done a few times) is to decide how much time my indoor pedaling today is going to take, pedal in the lower zone until I've done 40%, do 20% ramping it up into the upper zone (this threshold value is a guesstimate, but I have no problem just doing RPE), then dialing it back at 60% time and finishing the ride at 100%. Pedal at a walking pace for a few minutes more to let my heart rate ramp down to around 80, and done.
And I think I understand that polarization and periodization are not the same thing, and that polarization does not imply periodization. I understand there is a lot of science behind periodization, and I respect that. I found it too much as well several years ago when I tried to take it on. No? |
Originally Posted by rubiksoval
(Post 21124181)
Because it's not practical and not specific.
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Originally Posted by Road Fan
(Post 21194854)
I think my interpretation of 80/20 is practical for me, and is consistent with the goals as I shared in my previous post, and for these goals I think it is adequately specific.
And to be honest, it really doesn't matter a bit. Do what you enjoy. Enjoy the process, enjoy the resulting fitness. |
You're correct, it isn't necessary to train within any particular strategy. As it is I want to get up to four hours a week, and besides some rides I'd like to do next year, I'm not very specific on goals.
In my case the labels "polarized" and "periodized" don't directly apply. |
Originally Posted by Road Fan
(Post 21194799)
Maybe I'm too ignorant, but I thought all I need to do (and have done a few times) is to decide how much time my indoor pedaling today is going to take, pedal in the lower zone until I've done 40%, do 20% ramping it up into the upper zone (this threshold value is a guesstimate, but I have no problem just doing RPE), then dialing it back at 60% time and finishing the ride at 100%. Pedal at a walking pace for a few minutes more to let my heart rate ramp down to around 80, and done.
And I think I understand that polarization and periodization are not the same thing, and that polarization does not imply periodization. I understand there is a lot of science behind periodization, and I respect that. I found it too much as well several years ago when I tried to take it on. No? |
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