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MR BIG STUFF 10-17-20 07:48 AM

You guys probably know this already..
 
...this is a nice little cheapo addition to your tool kit.
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTUwMFgxN...bdf2p/$_57.JPG

Bill Kapaun 10-17-20 09:05 AM

And just how many of the bits fit bicycle fasteners? Maybe 30%?

rydabent 10-17-20 09:09 AM

For most bikes you only need a 3-4-5 mm size. Check out one of the new "snowflake" tools on the internet, they have all three.

Geepig 10-17-20 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun (Post 21747122)
And just how many of the bits fit bicycle fasteners? Maybe 30%?

Well, my wife can always find more uses for the other sizes, for me to tackle things around the home...

veganbikes 10-17-20 11:07 AM

Ehh I would rather have a really high quality set of T handles or regular L keys like Wera, Beta, PB Swiss, Silca, Park (their new T handle set is quite nice). I can probably get those for around the same price and have something a little higher quality. One of my Silca sets was $28 on sale and has all the bike stuff I need.

If I really needed a set for my swivel head racheting wrench I would want something of good quality as it is a Snap On wrench and putting some random internet buy with it just cheapens the whole experience. If I just needing something to toss in a car and use very infrequently maybe this would make some sense but life is too short for cheap tools.

Bill Kapaun 10-17-20 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Geepig (Post 21747172)
Well, my wife can always find more uses for the other sizes, for me to tackle things around the home...

But this wasn't posted on the hen pecked forum.

SurferRosa 10-17-20 03:11 PM

I would never use any of those.

For me and my old bikes, it's important to have a small, quick allen wrench handy with its little handle, perfectly suited for the job. Short lever length is important to apply the correct level of torque for small bolts without the need for a special wrench.

Crankycrank 10-17-20 03:18 PM

You can NEVER have too many tools. Including this one. :fred:

MR BIG STUFF 10-17-20 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Crankycrank (Post 21747510)
You can NEVER have too many tools. Including this one. :fred:

Thank you.
It's the ratchet that makes these handy in a tight area.

Andrew R Stewart 10-17-20 08:20 PM

It's the square drive (ratchet) that makes these useful with newer bikes that want specific torque control. Otherwise I would pass. Andy

Chuck M 10-17-20 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun (Post 21747122)
And just how many of the bits fit bicycle fasteners? Maybe 30%?


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 21747126)
For most bikes you only need a 3-4-5 mm size. Check out one of the new "snowflake" tools on the internet, they have all three.

I work on crap other than my bikes. Of all the tools I have probably only 3% are for bicycle use.

Bill Kapaun 10-17-20 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by psychodad (Post 21747924)
I work on crap other than my bikes. Of all the tools I have probably only 3% are for bicycle use.

This is a bicycle mechanics forum. Not Tool Time.

Pop N Wood 10-18-20 06:59 AM

man, bunch or crotchety old bastards on this site.

T handled allen wrenches make bike repairs quicker and more enjoyable, but a good socket mounted driver is essential for properly torqueing down crank bolts.

Thanks for posting your find.

sweeks 10-18-20 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 21747126)
For most bikes you only need a 3-4-5 mm size.

I think some crank hardware is 8mm and 10mm is needed to remove some freehubs.
The "N+1" philosophy (or affliction!) applies to tools as well as bikes. :D

MR BIG STUFF 10-18-20 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by sweeks (Post 21748186)
I think some crank hardware is 8mm and 10mm is needed to remove some freehubs.
The "N+1" philosophy (or affliction!) applies to tools as well as bikes. :D

I bought it for the 10mm, my hub was getting sticky.

sweeks 10-18-20 07:52 AM

Tools are handy for use as avatars too! :D

WizardOfBoz 10-18-20 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 21747255)
Ehh I would rather have a really high quality set of T handles or regular L keys like Wera, Beta, PB Swiss, Silca, Park (their new T handle set is quite nice). I can probably get those for around the same price and have something a little higher quality. One of my Silca sets was $28 on sale and has all the bike stuff I need.

I have a set of Wera Hex Plus keys (traditional "L" shape: no T handle) that are great. PB Swiss is beyond my pay grade (the Wera price made me gulp). But the 1/4 and 3/8 inch drive short hex keys are highly useful for torque wrenches.

John Valuk 10-18-20 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by MR BIG STUFF (Post 21747636)
It's the ratchet that makes these handy in a tight area.

For what it's worth, Wadsworth Falls makes a mini ratchet system that can work in some insanely tight spaces.

My only gripe is that I don't currently know of a place to buy components (e.g., individual bits) at what I consider to be reasonable prices. I used to be able to get them from MSC Industrial Supply. Lots of places sell the complete sets.

CroMo Mike 10-18-20 08:21 PM

Chapman Tools makes and sells the mini driver and ratchet kits, and sells the individual pieces separately. Google them.

JoeTBM 10-19-20 02:00 AM

Nice premium set of metric 3mm to 10mm

https://www.harborfreight.com/38-in-...bit+socket+set

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8f29d85e51.jpg
or their cheaper chromium version

https://www.harborfreight.com/hand-t...-pc-69546.html

John Valuk 10-19-20 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by CroMo Mike (Post 21749243)
Chapman Tools makes and sells the mini driver and ratchet kits, and sells the individual pieces separately. Google them.

Thanks for the tip. I've had a Chapman set for many years, but I don't think I've used it since I got one of the Wadsworth Falls sets.

For a lot of applications, either one would serve well.

veganbikes 10-20-20 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by WizardOfBoz (Post 21748352)
I have a set of Wera Hex Plus keys (traditional "L" shape: no T handle) that are great. PB Swiss is beyond my pay grade (the Wera price made me gulp). But the 1/4 and 3/8 inch drive short hex keys are highly useful for torque wrenches.

Yeah they are a bit more expensive but honestly I think I like them a bit more. The actual hex portion of the Wera is great but I find the colored bit to be a bit bulkier than I want. I am still happy with the purchase for sure but I guess I like a thinner tool.

The T handle is what I am after now and the Beta's are high on the list but then I really like having the color coding just for quick ease of grabbing. I may slide a ring of colored heat shrink on them if I go with Beta or PB Swiss. I do like the Park though they seem weighty and I don't know. Decisions decisions. Though right now I think the ratcheting wrenches are highest priority for me and looking around I think Snap On is the only way as they do smaller than an 8mm wrench in the stubby stuff which is what I want. For bigger nuts I have my Hozan 14/15 ratchet and if I need to go bigger Beta makes a nice Hozan style 17/19 ratchet or I can just get the proper sockets. The stubbys are just perfect for a travel box to save a little weight. It is not like I need to put a ton of torque on a 10mm nut and if I do there is probably a bolt on it with an hex head I can use an Allen key with.


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