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Beautiful Greg Lemond Ventoux - Billato Bike honest value wanted
So, the bike cave is busting at the seams and I need to make some room. Having to make hard decisions which ones to let go. The Ventoux is being considered since in reality I now prefer to use the Trek Y-Foil for fast century rides vs this one which I had set up for that. Looking for an honest evaluation for local sale. Not comfortable with shipping or selling to someone who can't see it first. So just want to know what you all think it would be worth. I purposely did not clean it up for the pics as I wanted to portray as I kept it day to day. Only change was taking off my Brooks saddle and the sweet Veloflex tubulars I had on it. The old Team Saturn Mavic wheels are too cool to give up without a bump in price . So the bike is being sold with a really nice set of Mavic Open 4 CD rims and Shimano 600 Tricolor wheels with Mavic Aksiom tires that look brand new. Hubs were serviced when I took these wheels off another bike and stored them about a year ago. Recent Sram 12-26T cassette that looks brand new but I'd have to dig in my logs to see when I swapped it and the chain. 8 Speed Shimano 105 brakes, shifters, RD, FD with an R700 Crankset I put on a couple of years ago with a new bottom bracket. 50/34 chain rings. Upgraded the handlebars to Cinelli Giro D' Italia 42 cm width and a put on a new Cinelli stem at that time. Pics below. Paint is really, really good but if you look closely you can see some chips and such. They were pretty much there when I got it and I haven't done anything about them. Bike lives inside, never ridden in rain and it's dry here so rust isn't really an issue. I keep them cleaned and waxed to seal the surface.
So what should I ask for it? Local sale so cost of packing and shipping isn't a consideration. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2c096ab2ed.jpg As I'm going to list it minus the pedals https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9eb3777d2c.jpg Another shot from this morning. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...376062af18.jpg Pretty much all the paint is this good, great shine. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...481c899ef3.jpg More details https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2c4921ce6c.jpg 105 RD https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d2a16b4f9.jpg 105 FD and R700 50/34 crank https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5d69511efd.jpg Decals are in great shape. The quality of these is so much better than the Trek Lemonds. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...65696a80a3.jpg Hoods are almost like new https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8bc5a55c8a.jpg Very few marks on the shifters. |
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0772d1ce09.jpg
Cinelli bar and stems https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5be9316af1.jpg 105 brakes https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...80a4512226.jpg Yeah, that's nice! https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bc5d1a9598.jpg So this should date it no earlier than 1989/1990 https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c1dac6709f.jpg Beautiful paint https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...73da468440.jpg Billato built! https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a13a160849.jpg Yep, like new decals https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3180725fc5.jpg Pretty much new cassette https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...66743b7352.jpg Sweet rims go well with the bike. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8ffb0625f7.jpg Buttery smooth Shimano Hubs! |
Now I feel like an idiot.
I just sent you a PM regarding an ad I saw for your bike (not knowing it was your bike) to give you heads up because it was in your area knowing you're a GL lover. I know shipping is out of the question so I won't ask but all your bikes 9s and 10s. |
Originally Posted by nomadmax
(Post 21767955)
Now I feel like an idiot.
I just sent you a PM regarding an ad I saw for your bike (not knowing it was you bike) to give you heads up because it was in your area knowing you're a GL lover. I know shipping is out of the question so I won't ask but all your bikes 9s and 10s. |
Ooh, that's a beauty.
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Friggin' Beautiful! What size?.... 55cm?
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In the spring, list it for $800 (or more) with a cool looking saddle ... which gives you a little more time to ride the hell out of it. :thumb:
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Originally Posted by trailangel
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Friggin' Beautiful! What size?.... 55cm?
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
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In the spring, list it for $800 (or more) with a cool looking saddle ... which gives you a little more time to ride the hell out of it. :thumb:
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Beautiful
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Beautiful piece of cycling history right there.
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I think with a Cromor frame and 105 components that $800 is optimistic. More like $600 in my mind.
BTW, I own two Billato built bikes and they are great riders. Both are Columbus TSX frames with Shimano Tricolor components..
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
(Post 21768603)
In the spring, list it for $800 (or more) with a cool looking saddle ... which gives you a little more time to ride the hell out of it. :thumb:
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
(Post 21768640)
It's a 54.
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
(Post 21770134)
How long is the tope tube C to C ?
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Super nice bike, but isn't that chain a little short?
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
(Post 21768645)
I actually put in the local ad that they could pick what they wanted from my garage wall, assortment of around 1/2 saddles. So many that come get the bikes I sell locally seem to like the soft gel saddles for some reason. I've got a couple of Turbo's which kill me that they are more than welcome too, LOL!
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Originally Posted by VtwinVince
(Post 21779398)
Super nice bike, but isn't that chain a little short?
not if its in the big-big combo |
Just as a point of reference. This did sell locally today for $600. Sort of sad to see one of my Lemonds go....
This was the buyers first classic steel bike after a lot of other bikes over the years. He was super impressed with how smooth it rode and how quiet it was. That was one of my most dialed in rides with a super quiet drivetrain. |
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...$600 is what I paid here for the last Billato built bike I bought here. It was nicely equipped, but IIRC, I had to rebuild one of the wheels. They are probably worth more than that, but tend to fly under the radar because not especially famous, and imported by different companies over the years. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f4953d6077.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e6299907c8.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c18348d0fd.jpg |
^ That's a beaut. With selling the Ventoux and the 57 cm Giordana Scorpius frame I'm now down to only 8 Billato built machines in the house. All of them wonderful bikes on the road. Well, the jury is still out on the Concorde. Can't get it built until the cassette arrives....if it ever does....
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
(Post 21788014)
^ That's a beaut. With selling the Ventoux and the 57 cm Giordana Scorpius frame I'm now down to only 8 Billato built machines in the house. All of them wonderful bikes on the road. Well, the jury is still out on the Concorde. Can't get it built until the cassette arrives....if it ever does....
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Originally Posted by himespau
(Post 21788404)
Were the Italian-build Concorde's done by Billato? I have a ~1990 Concorde Aquila that has the Italian flag thing on the top tube that I new was contract-built somewhere in Italy, but didn't know by whom.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b4bd838786.jpg This is it mocked up a bit as I worked to decided how to build it. Notice no, Italian Flag braze-on. |
I have owned 2 Battaglins with the Italian flag braze-on, would love to know whether it signifies anything:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...099598a928.jpg |
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