Why are roadies going 1x11 or 1x12?
This a fad because:
1. You lose of a lot gears 2. Too much gear spacing=poor shifting 3. Lose top end if you configure gears for hills, or need a huge cassette to compensate. Might change the madone to 1x possibly but not sure. |
A one-by road thread? How absolutely novel!
This one has a half-life from birth fellas, so get in while you can. |
1 - Yes
2 - Yes, but typically only on the really big jumps and even then it’s not terrible. 3 - Yes. Possibly you missed the discovery that front derailers and shifting as gotten measurably worse since 11 spd. was introduced ? |
4. The more the chainline deflects the more watts are wasted.
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Originally Posted by Steve B.
(Post 21040138)
1 - Yes
2 - Yes, but typically only on the really big jumps and even then it’s not terrible. 3 - Yes. Possibly you missed the discovery that front derailers and shifting as gotten measurably worse since 11 spd. was introduced ? |
Ever ridden a 1x11? If you had, you would know the answer to your own question.
My chainring lines up with the middle cog on the cassette. The deflection in the 42 is the same as that in the 10. |
1x means less parts to wear out.
Just like there is not a bike that can do everything, you need more than one. If 2 chainrings are better than 1, they why not 3? If have both and each has it's place. http://glenn-ring.com/emonda/cannondalesuperx.jpg |
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope
(Post 21040177)
Ever ridden a 1x11? If you had, you would know the answer to your own question.
My chainring lines up with the middle cog on the cassette. The deflection in the 42 is the same as that in the 10. So do you get a lot of noise in the smallest or biggest gear in the cassette? |
I don't get noise in any gear on my 1X bike. Narrow-wide chainring, clutched RD, waxed chain. It's about as quiet as a multi-speed bike can be.
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope
(Post 21040114)
A one-by road thread? How absolutely novel!
This one has a half-life from birth fellas, so get in while you can. Troll much? In Before the Lock. |
Originally Posted by DrIsotope
(Post 21040202)
I don't get noise in any gear on my 1X bike. Narrow-wide chainring, clutched RD, waxed chain. It's about as quiet as a multi-speed bike can be.
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I have always heard that 1x11 is considerably safer when riding in foggy areas...
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42T + 10-42 cassette.
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Pff, the future is half-step triple, IMO. Electronic shifting makes it practical to make the gaps between gears consistent rather than bigger with speed.
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Originally Posted by MyTi
(Post 21040108)
This a fad because:
1. You lose of a lot gears 2. Too much gear spacing=poor shifting 3. Lose top end if you configure gears for hills, or need a huge cassette to compensate. Might change the madone to 1x possibly but not sure. |
Originally Posted by GlennR
(Post 21040185)
1x means less parts to wear out.
Just like there is not a bike that can do everything, you need more than one. If 2 chainrings are better than 1, they why not 3? If have both and each has it's place. http://glenn-ring.com/emonda/cannondalesuperx.jpg |
Originally Posted by DrIsotope
(Post 21040222)
42T + 10-42 cassette.
Thats gonna have a lot of cross chain noise... |
Odd that it absolutely doesn't. If only I had some practical experience to back up that claim, right?
https://i.imgur.com/fr1p5Qt.png https://i.imgur.com/NMIl2fq.png |
Originally Posted by DrIsotope
(Post 21040278)
Odd that it absolutely doesn't. If only I had some practical experience to back up that claim, right?
https://i.imgur.com/fr1p5Qt.png https://i.imgur.com/NMIl2fq.png |
Originally Posted by downhillmaster
(Post 21040221)
I have always heard that 1x11 is considerably safer when riding in foggy areas...
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Simplicity. Never having to shift or trim a FD. Not having to carry unnecessary weight. Daring to not follow the crowd.
I can ride any of my routes on a fixed gear. Why in the world would my geared bike need 2 chainrings? Or a "huge" cassette? Good thread, for sure. :p |
Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
(Post 21040298)
Daring to not follow the crowd.
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Bikes have gotten so expensive, people can't afford two chainrings anymore.
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Originally Posted by Noctilux.95
(Post 21040252)
1X has its place, on a MB with a 50t cassette. On road and gravel, I would take 2x every time. I'm surprised you didn't post a pic of your aging Emonda. That bike has made more appearance here than posts about what bike should I buy.
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