Emerson Professor struck by train while on bike
heard about this, this morning. watching the video on TV this morning it looked like one train can be stopped blocking your view of another oncoming train. I wonder if that's what happened & if maybe there should be a crossing gate that closes when a train is approaching like they have for cars
excerpt: "Moses Shumow was riding his bicycle on a pedestrian "cut-through" lane at Beverly Depot station in Massachusetts Tuesday morning when he was struck by a train. Shumow, an associate professor, was taken to a nearby hospital, where he died of his injuries" https://www.necn.com/news/new-englan...563691281.html https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f5ce4ac8e0.jpg |
That sucks. In my town, if there is already a light rail train in a station, an arriving train will wait until it departs so that there is only one train at a time in the station.
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Tragic but ... rare? I'm thinking yes. I'm guessing there aren't significant (any?) numbers of commuters being hit by trains in stations in this city. So I wouldn't even speculate as to a 'fix'. None is indicated. None is warranted. Sounds like the deceased made an impact on his colleagues and students in a fairly short time.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
(Post 21176147)
heard about this, this morning. watching the video on TV this morning it looked like one train can be stopped blocking your view of another oncoming train. I wonder if that's what happened & if maybe there should be a crossing gate that closes when a train is approaching like they have for cars
excerpt: "Moses Shumow was riding his bicycle on a pedestrian "cut-through" lane at Beverly Depot station in Massachusetts Tuesday morning when he was struck by a train. Shumow, an associate professor, was taken to a nearby hospital, where he died of his injuries" https://www.necn.com/news/new-englan...563691281.html https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f5ce4ac8e0.jpg |
The familiarity of an area can also be an issue in many of the train incidents.
I had a friend who fortunately escaped serious injury when a train struck their car. Their house was along the bank of the Mississippi River with a common neighborhood access road that had to cross tracks to reach the highway. The driver was so accustomed to constantly crossing the tracks that it became commonplace and he got careless about it. Fortunately the train just clipped the car, but 6 feet more and he would have been gone. I think we all fall victim to the familiar without noticing. I know that I pay more attention and am more cautious when driving or biking in an area that is new or unfamiliar. Add in stress, haste, distraction, etc. and it is a formula for disaster. Unfortunately, when the conflict is between a human and a train, the train almost always wins. Can they add more gates, more signs? Sure - but it is impossible to remove the human element. I have to constantly remind myself to drive or ride defensively. As a side note - I recently read that pedestrian and bicycle deaths from auto accidents are up nationwide - forgot the exact figures and can't find the documentation now. The article did list distraction as a significant factor. . |
Emerson Professor struck by train while on bike
Originally Posted by rumrunn6
(Post 21176147)
heard about this, this morning. watching the video on TV this morning it looked like one train can be stopped blocking your view of another oncoming train.
I wonder if that's what happened & if maybe there should be a crossing gate that closes when a train is approaching like they have for cars
Originally Posted by SactoDoug
(Post 21176228)
That sucks. In my town, if there is already a light rail train in a station, an arriving train will wait until it departs so that there is only one train at a time in the station.
Originally Posted by Leisesturm
(Post 21176446)
Tragic but ... rare? I'm thinking yes. I'm guessing there aren't significant (any?) numbers of commuters being hit by trains in stations in this city. So I wouldn't even speculate as to a 'fix'.
None is indicated. None is warranted…
Originally Posted by livedarklions
(Post 21176467)
I knew someone who got killed in California while she was crossing tracks on foot at a similar place.
It's really the same situation as a vehicle in one lane screening the second lane from view of the pedestrian at a crosswalk, and that's a major cause of pedestrian fatalities. My routine cycle commute parallels a Commuter Rail line, even with a convenient station within a few 100 yards of my workplace. It does have those pedestrian crosswalks across the tracks of the two parallel in- and outbound routes. When the two trains are in the station, the later train always stops short, as described by @SactoDoug. The trains discharging passengers always wait until the conductor has observer all the riders crossing the path from the right-sided exits of the train. I presume the engineer has a view of anyone crossing from the other side.
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 20937705)
So often on these threads about calamities or near misses, I post about my mindset that I believe gives me that extra edge...
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 19246193)
I try to keep safe with certain aphorisms in my head that come to mind to alert me when I encounter a situation where unseen dangers may lurk, such as “Like a weapon, assume every stopped car is loaded, with an occupant ready to exit from either side.” or“Don’t ride over an area (such as puddles or leaves) when you can’t see the road surface."...
Over the past few months I have come to realize that my safety aphorisms (link), collected over the years by personal or vicarious experience, are my way of actively aligning the stars in my favor, to anticipate those unseen and otherwise unanticipated dangers. FWIW, for my own information at least, my other aphorisms:
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 20763349)
1..3 4. You don’t have the right-of-way until the other yields it to you (learned from my teacher in driver’s ed) 5…9… Those are all I remember for now, and they all pop-up in my mind as I encounter the situation. In my case, and in the incident of the OP, I think #4 best applies, "You don’t have the right-of-way until the other yields it to you," particularly when your view of intersecting traffic is obstructed, and the oncoming vehicle is a locomotive. :eek: I am always attentive to the street crossings in these well-populated suburbs, and wait for the crossing gate to lift. Once though, a couple decades ago while riding in Detroit, myself and a line of cars was stopped at a RR crossing. After the train was well-passed and out of sight, the gate still did not lift. Since I was at the head of the line, I manually pushed the gate up, opening the road ahead; my only violation of a RR crossing. |
Having worked a few train/pedestrian scenes I think it all boils down to this; you only have to vigilant around train tracks. No train ever turned in front of someone, ran a stop sign or changed lanes without signaling. It's tragic that these things happen but they do, with some regularity. RIP to the person in OP and all the others who make the mistake of not giving the laws of physics the proper attention it deserves.
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"Hit by a train" might well be the most avoidable cause of death on earth. While the train may have been the mechanism in this case, complacency was the cause.
complacency: [kuh m-pley-suh n see] noun, a feeling of quiet pleasure or security, often while unaware of some potential danger, defect, or the like |
I would suspect that well over half of these deaths are suicides. How can a person, 1.) Not hear the train coming, and 2.) not look up and see a train coming before they step across RR tracks? Seems unfathomable without severe intoxication or a death wish.
But the state of mind of the deceased at the time of death can be difficult to prove, and relatives may not want to believe the person actually killed themselves, so they might prefer to believe it was an accident, and may even sue the railroad on the theory it was an accident. Or maybe they know the person killed themselves, but are trying to squeeze some money out of the RR. I'm telling you though, if I was on a jury of one of these cases, I would have a very difficult time believing the RR had any fault when someone steps into the path of an oncoming train, with three blinding headlights, no ability to steer, and whose horn can be easily heard from 5 miles away. |
Originally Posted by Lemond1985
(Post 21177841)
I would suspect that well over half of these deaths are suicides. How can a person, 1.) Not hear the train coming, and 2.) not look up and see a train coming before they step across RR tracks? Seems unfathomable without severe intoxication or a death wish.
But the state of mind of the deceased at the time of death can be difficult to prove, and relatives may not want to believe the person actually killed themselves, so they might prefer to believe it was an accident, and may even sue the railroad on the theory it was an accident. Or maybe they know the person killed themselves, but are trying to squeeze some money out of the RR. I'm telling you though, if I was on a jury of one of these cases, I would have a very difficult time believing the RR had any fault when someone steps into the path of an oncoming train, with three blinding headlights, no ability to steer, and whose horn can be easily heard from 5 miles away. |
Originally Posted by rumrunn6
(Post 21176147)
heard about this, this morning. watching the video on TV this morning it looked like one train can be stopped blocking your view of another oncoming train.
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
(Post 21177841)
I would suspect that well over half of these deaths are suicides. How can a person, 1.) Not hear the train coming, and 2.) not look up and see a train coming before they step across RR tracks? Seems unfathomable without severe intoxication or a death wish.
BTW...Something like this is usually quite traumatic for the engineer. It has been reported that a victim's eyes seem the size of grapefruits when he/she realizes they just made a deadly mistake. |
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21179508)
It's not possible to tell from the photo, but in this instance we could be talking about an electrified railroad.
Moses Shumow Obituary: Former FIU Journalism Professor Leaves Lasting Legacy of Empathy -mr. bill |
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21179508)
I work in the rail industry. While suicide by train is a thing, you have to understand that modern locomotives are a lot quieter these days. It's not possible to tell from the photo, but in this instance we could be talking about an electrified railroad. Those locomotives are usually even quieter than diesel-electric power, especially when coasting. You also have to ask whether the deceased was wearing something like ear buds. As for sight, as it's been pointed out, one can be screened when there are two tracks. This sort of thing has happened plenty of times before with both cars and pedestrians.
BTW...Something like this is usually quite traumatic for the engineer. It has been reported that a victim's eyes seem the size of grapefruits when he/she realizes they just made a deadly mistake. Mr. Bill has correctly identified this as a diesel line. However, it's a Chicago-style push-pull system with a locomotive at one end only, so half of the time the train is headed by a passenger car with a cab in the front. I can hear these trains coming from pretty far off, but have no idea what the ambient noise is like at that crossing, or if two trains were involved. |
Originally Posted by MNebiker
(Post 21176819)
The driver was so accustomed to constantly crossing the tracks that it became commonplace and he got careless about it. [..] I think we all fall victim to the familiar without noticing.
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Most train accidents involve a "hidden" train. Especially at crossings where there are no gates. The motorist at the head of the line (who has been delayed the longest) fires up the engine when the last car comes into sight and the INSTANT the train passes the road that motorist in front blasts off right in front of a train coming the opposite way totally eclipsed by the first train. Very very common. Pedestrians as well. Same issue.
I've seen it personally where a bunch of tourists were about to step out in front of a trolley hidden by a train in New Orleans. I likely saved someone's life by shouting at the group as they began to spring out from behind the passed train with a trolley on the next track. I know to look UNDER the train blocking my view of parallel tracks behind it. And look both ways like at any other road crossing. So remember: It's the SECOND train that gets you! Same with auto/truck traffic. Rule #1 . IF YOU CAN'T SEE, YOU CAN'T GO. |
Originally Posted by JoeyBike
(Post 21180117)
...Same with auto/truck traffic. Rule #1 . IF YOU CAN'T SEE, YOU CAN'T GO.
My only guess was that, perhaps, the drivers were concerned that, if they left room at the intersection for others on the sidestreets to cross or turn in the lane in front of them, that they'd, continually, have other drivers keep cutting in front of them. But, all I wanted to do was cross the road, not "cut in front of them." There's a reason why signs exist, saying, "Do Not Block Intersection." |
excerpt: "Moses Shumow was riding his bicycle on a pedestrian "cut-through" lane at Beverly Depot station in Massachusetts Tuesday morning when he was struck by a train. Shumow, an associate professor, was taken to a nearby hospital, where he died of his injuries" For years, I lived in a place with a "light rail" system that had plenty of these cut-through lanes at the stations. They definitely required sensible riding and awareness of all inbound and outbound trains. Nature of the beast. My own guideline when crossing such things: , assuming that tracks = oncoming train, unless visually confirmed otherwise. Might usually be the case that there's not one there, not one coming. But the risk of betting incorrectly on that one can be deadly. It is what it is. IF there's a clear and unobstructed view, then I can visually and aurally confirm whether there's another train on the other side of the first one. Else, I'll assume there's one there, barreling along, and capable of striking me the moment I dip a toe onto those other tracks. Same as on a city street, with cars. No telling exactly what this guy's particular circumstances and thought processes were, but it looks like he wasn't cautious enough by half. |
People may tend to believe there are warning gates, lights or bells to alert them but not only isn't this necessarily the case, they also don't look for the train or have distractions such as loud music or earphones/headsets for their devices...or they just cross because they've never seen a train on those tracks.
Union Pacific has operated events here in the past to promote safety but it has been a while. There is Operation Lifesaver with ads featuring a man who crossed the tracks everyday and never paid attention until his last ride was in a hearse. The ads for the air conditioners and heaters that say, "It's hard to stop a Trane" aren't just wordplay. |
I'm surprised they allow people to ride the bike across the tracks in the station rather than forcing people to get off their bikes and walk across the tracks which may promote more vigilance.
Busy rail stations usually have a couple of different solutions (for pedestrians).
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 21177692)
...When the two trains are in the station, the later train always stops short, as described by @SactoDoug.
The trains discharging passengers always wait until the conductor has observer all the riders crossing the path from the right-sided exits of the train. I presume the engineer has a view of anyone crossing from the other side….
Originally Posted by livedarklions
(Post 21179721)
Mr. Bill has correctly identified this as a diesel line. However, it's a Chicago-style push-pull system with a locomotive at one end only, so half of the time the train is headed by a passenger car with a cab in the front. I can hear these trains coming from pretty far off, but have no idea what the ambient noise is like at that crossing, or if two trains were involved.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
(Post 21180715)
So, do the trains have a video system so that the engineers can see what is going on in front of the train no matter which direction it is going?
Obviously they can't stop on a dime, but they can blast a horn that'll wake the dead.
Originally Posted by mr_bill
(Post 21180905)
In a single locomotive push-pull train there is a locomotive on one end and a cab car at the other end. The engineer moves to the appropriate control cab.
In fact, I know my inbound train homeward is delayed when the outbound signal light is red and that train will wait outside the station perimeter for mine to pass. |
Originally Posted by livedarklions
(Post 21179721)
Mr. Bill has correctly identified this as a diesel line. However, it's a Chicago-style push-pull system with a locomotive at one end only, so half of the time the train is headed by a passenger car with a cab in the front. I can hear these trains coming from pretty far off, but have no idea what the ambient noise is like at that crossing, or if two trains were involved.
Obviously they can't stop on a dime, but they can blast a horn that'll wake the dead. |
In a single locomotive push-pull train there is a locomotive on one end and a cab car at the other end. The engineer moves to the appropriate control cab.
Beverley grade crossings and station are “quiet zones” - no horns except in an emergency. There is no report of a horn used. The trains enter the station sounding bells, which could are not much louder than an idling diesel-electric locomotive. It will be months and months before a report is released. -mr. bill |
This -
Originally Posted by MNebiker
(Post 21176819)
The familiarity of an area can also be an issue in many of the train incidents.
I had a friend who fortunately escaped serious injury when a train struck their car. Their house was along the bank of the Mississippi River with a common neighborhood access road that had to cross tracks to reach the highway. The driver was so accustomed to constantly crossing the tracks that it became commonplace and he got careless about it. Fortunately the train just clipped the car, but 6 feet more and he would have been gone. I think we all fall victim to the familiar without noticing. I know that I pay more attention and am more cautious when driving or biking in an area that is new or unfamiliar. Add in stress, haste, distraction, etc. and it is a formula for disaster. Unfortunately, when the conflict is between a human and a train, the train almost always wins. Can they add more gates, more signs? Sure - but it is impossible to remove the human element. I have to constantly remind myself to drive or ride defensively. As a side note - I recently read that pedestrian and bicycle deaths from auto accidents are up nationwide - forgot the exact figures and can't find the documentation now. The article did list distraction as a significant factor. . The other person died. My friend was traumatized for a long while afterwards. RE, the incident in question: I'm saddened for the professor's family. The event comes as a painful and visceral reminder that our life can change, or end, in an instant. |
Originally Posted by CliffordK
(Post 21180646)
I'm surprised they allow people to ride the bike across the tracks in the station rather than forcing people to get off their bikes and walk across the tracks which may promote more vigilance.
Busy rail stations usually have a couple of different solutions (for pedestrians)... Otherwise the tracks, at least in the station, are separated by a chain link fence. Outside of the stations, I’m sure the RR rights of way are fenced off too. Of a historical note,
Originally Posted by jitenshajin
(Post 20604279)
...I remember reading about Thomas Stevens, born 1854 in Hertfordshire, England. He was the first person to circle the globe by bicycle. He rode a large-wheeled Ordinary, commonly known as a penny-farthing, from April 1884 to December 1886. This made him the world’s first ever bicycle touring adventurist and one that traveled it in a very impressive way…
https://kickasstrips.com/2013/07/tho...thing-in-1885/ The tales of his exploits can be read in two volumes which are free to download in several formats at Gutenburg.org, Entitled "Around the World by Bicycle - Volumes 1 & 2." Books by Stevens, Thomas (sorted by popularity) - Project Gutenberg
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 20610128)
Years ago I read the first volume, of his trip across the US. I specifically recall he was certainly a man of his times. He carried a revolver, and once referred to an Asian man as “John Chinaman.” :twitchy::
One memorable description was riding on a trestle railroad bridge, and as a train approached he had to hang on underneath dangling his penny-farthing bicycle. :eek: |
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