GRX Technical Documents
Shimano has published technical documents for the GRX line
https://si.shimano.com Not earth shattering news but melacholic analytics like me find it interesting and I'm seeing the components available for pre-order with ETA 6/15/19. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ff4baae2c9.jpg -Tim- |
Thanks.
BTW it is "melancholic." |
I believe that JensonUSA has GRX parts available for pre-order.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
(Post 20969139)
Thanks.
BTW it is "melancholic." -Tim- |
Have you ever done a Shimano pre-order on a newly-introduced groupset? I have. My most recent was Ultegra Di2 disk. It once had a June ETA. Then it was August. Then late August. Then September. Then November. Then late November. Then December. Then the next February. Then . . . in February, I could get everything except the brifters and brakes. But I could get Dura Ace Di2 brifters and brakes, so I dug deep and paid myself out of my misery. If I had waited a couple more months, I could have had the whole groupset in Ultegra. 10 months after the original ETA. (And my new frameset sat in the LBS's storage for all those months.)
Adding to the frustration was that OEM bikes with the groupset installed were readily available for most of that time. Individuals don't get the goods until the OEM pipeline is full. I hope it's different this time. But every Shimano new-intro groupset I've ever pre-ordered became a very, very long wait with lots of ludicrous ETA's. Don't believe the ETA until your LBS tells you the groupset has arrived and after you've had a chance to inventory the goods. Until then, it's just wishful thinking. (Don't sell your old stuff yet.) |
Originally Posted by TimothyH
(Post 20970599)
You have ruined my week.
-Tim- |
Originally Posted by SilverRubicon
(Post 20969782)
I believe that JensonUSA has GRX parts available for pre-order.
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Shimano has prioritized local shops for availability of new slx, xt, and grx. My local shop got all 3 in on Friday. I am waiting on drivetrain only XT which comes in next month to upgrade by XC bike.
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Originally Posted by gus6464
(Post 20980831)
Shimano has prioritized local shops for availability of new slx, xt, and grx. My local shop got all 3 in on Friday. I am waiting on drivetrain only XT which comes in next month to upgrade by XC bike.
-Tim- |
Originally Posted by TimothyH
(Post 20980861)
Wait, so it is actual hardware on the street for purchase, not vaporware?
-Tim- |
I don't want to start a new thread on this, so I figured I would continue this one.
Why does the Tiagra level RD RX400 have more capacity (41T) and a better max low gear (36T) capability than the higher level RD RX810? I would love the capability of a 46/30 crankset paired to a 11-36 cassette, but I feel a little weird removing an Ultegra RD 6800 GS & replacing it with a Tiagra level RD. To add insult to injury, I don't believe the newer 11 speed Shimano stuff is compatible with the 10 speed and lower stuff, but I could be wrong. I like that Shimano finally released this stuff, but this seems a little backwards. |
Originally Posted by medic75
(Post 21028827)
I don't want to start a new thread on this, so I figured I would continue this one.
Why does the Tiagra level RD RX400 have more capacity (41T) and a better max low gear (36T) capability than the higher level RD RX810? I would love the capability of a 46/30 crankset paired to a 11-36 cassette, but I feel a little weird removing an Ultegra RD 6800 GS & replacing it with a Tiagra level RD. To add insult to injury, I don't believe the newer 11 speed Shimano stuff is compatible with the 10 speed and lower stuff, but I could be wrong. I like that Shimano finally released this stuff, but this seems a little backwards. |
Originally Posted by wgscott
(Post 21028835)
I currently have a 46/30 crankset and 11-36 cassette with an ordinary Ultegra RD (the Di2 mid-cage derailleur that corresponds to the 6800 series). Why not try just the crank and/or 11-36T (or 11-34T Shimano) cassette first?
I have an HG-800 (11-34, 11 speed) cassette on the way. With my 46/32 crankset, this will max out my derailleur capacity. |
Is GS the mid-cage or short-cage? If it is the mid-cage, it will work fine. (I didn't even know about the 37T difference capacity.) (Just looked it up, I see that it is.) Several of us here have this kind of setup. It works fine. (I have one wheelset with a SRAM 11-36T and one with Shimano's newer 11-34T cassette. Both shift without issue.)
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Originally Posted by medic75
(Post 21028827)
I don't want to start a new thread on this, so I figured I would continue this one.
Why does the Tiagra level RD RX400 have more capacity (41T) and a better max low gear (36T) capability than the higher level RD RX810? I would love the capability of a 46/30 crankset paired to a 11-36 cassette, but I feel a little weird removing an Ultegra RD 6800 GS & replacing it with a Tiagra level RD. To add insult to injury, I don't believe the newer 11 speed Shimano stuff is compatible with the 10 speed and lower stuff, but I could be wrong. I like that Shimano finally released this stuff, but this seems a little backwards. |
Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
(Post 21029291)
Shimano says the 41T capacity RDs are for 1x systems.
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Originally Posted by medic75
(Post 21029420)
. In addition that that, who would buy a 1x system with a 36T max low cassette limitation? Finally, a 1x system with a maximum of a 36T cassette & a 41T capacity would give you a -5T high gear.
the only thing better than a 42T paired to a 11-36 would be making it Electronic. |
Originally Posted by medic75
(Post 21028827)
I don't want to start a new thread on this, so I figured I would continue this one.
Why does the Tiagra level RD RX400 have more capacity (41T) and a better max low gear (36T) capability than the higher level RD RX810? I would love the capability of a 46/30 crankset paired to a 11-36 cassette, but I feel a little weird removing an Ultegra RD 6800 GS & replacing it with a Tiagra level RD. To add insult to injury, I don't believe the newer 11 speed Shimano stuff is compatible with the 10 speed and lower stuff, but I could be wrong. I like that Shimano finally released this stuff, but this seems a little backwards. |
Originally Posted by medic75
(Post 21028827)
I don't want to start a new thread on this, so I figured I would continue this one.
Why does the Tiagra level RD RX400 have more capacity (41T) and a better max low gear (36T) capability than the higher level RD RX810? I would love the capability of a 46/30 crankset paired to a 11-36 cassette, but I feel a little weird removing an Ultegra RD 6800 GS & replacing it with a Tiagra level RD. To add insult to injury, I don't believe the newer 11 speed Shimano stuff is compatible with the 10 speed and lower stuff, but I could be wrong. I like that Shimano finally released this stuff, but this seems a little backwards. |
Originally Posted by medic75
(Post 21029420)
RD-RX400 SHIMANO SHADOW RD+
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Originally Posted by Metieval
(Post 21029483)
Depending on where I am riding, ME!!!!!
the only thing better than a 42T paired to a 11-36 would be making it Electronic. |
Running an 11-36 cassete is nothing new, I dot it just fine on my Ultegra RX rear derailleur with an SLX 10 speed mountain bike cassete and RS405 10 speed hydraulic shifters, and I used to run the same system with a Tiagra 4700 rear derailleur. What I personly would like to be able to run an 11-42 mountain bike cassete with a 46-30 crankset, the same low 30x42 gear I have on my XC bike for the steep stuff and a 46x11 for the faster sections. I know people have been doing it with the ultegra RX rear derailleur but seems like quite a lot for the RD,
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Originally Posted by MAGAIVER
(Post 21035088)
Running an 11-36 cassete is nothing new, I dot it just fine on my Ultegra RX rear derailleur with an SLX 10 speed mountain bike cassete and RS405 10 speed hydraulic shifters, and I used to run the same system with a Tiagra 4700 rear derailleur. What I personly would like to be able to run an 11-42 mountain bike cassete with a 46-30 crankset, the same low 30x42 gear I have on my XC bike for the steep stuff and a 46x11 for the faster sections. I know people have been doing it with the ultegra RX rear derailleur but seems like quite a lot for the RD,
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5fbbd8654c.jpg |
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