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wrk101 10-24-19 08:08 AM

Ingenious? Idiotic Brake Cable Routing on 1972 Paramount
 
I picked this Paramount up two days ago, check out the routing.

I'll put the first picture up where it almost looks "normal"

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...20c9c309_k.jpg1972 Paramount Brake Cable by bill, on Flickr

wrk101 10-24-19 08:09 AM

Now the pictures that show the modification in "fine" detail:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...47b419df_k.jpg
1972 Paramount Brake Cable by bill, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...fb88049d_k.jpg
1972 Paramount Brake Cable by bill, on Flickr

wrk101 10-24-19 08:11 AM

PO also did a job with his engraver on this over wise nice Cinelli stem.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b5a5227c_k.jpg
1972 Paramount Stem by bill, on Flickr

TenGrainBread 10-24-19 08:13 AM

Some people... :notamused:

bikemig 10-24-19 08:17 AM

I have a hard time imagining that the PO wasn't concerned about the seat post failing . . .

:)

KonAaron Snake 10-24-19 08:23 AM

I had a Cinelli SC, around this era, with a hole in the seat post, and I wasn't sure what it was for...

At first, I thought maybe drillium? Then, because the post had a tendency to slip, I thought maybe he was sticking a bolt in there to add further support in the seattube. Maybe he was doing this.

The Cinelli I still have has the POs initials carved into the NR cranks.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...964475ca75.jpg

PilotFishBob 10-24-19 08:29 AM

Lovely. :rolleyes: Lucky the PO didn't try to go full-Routens and drill cable transit holes in the seat tube.

Ex Pres 10-24-19 08:37 AM

Have you filed for his Social Security yet?



Originally Posted by wrk101 (Post 21177880)
PO also did a job with his engraver on this over wise nice Cinelli stem.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b5a5227c_k.jpg
1972 Paramount Stem by bill, on Flickr



And I've seen that seatpost modification before - it's not that unusual.

Last ride 76 10-24-19 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Ex Pres (Post 21177920)






And I've seen that seatpost modification before - it's not that unusual.


Even this post was not as extreme as some... (and this one https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...129271d592.jpg
withstood a crash that destroyed my Unicanitor saddle, separating the top from the rail on one side).

JaccoW 10-24-19 09:49 AM

Seeing as the speedometer is "Made in Holland" it might even be an import. Engraving the frame was a fairly common thing to do back then as an anti-theft measure.
As for the seatpost, it's still a hip thing to do on some custom frames, albeit inside the frame.

I would mostly worry about losing the rear brake if the saddle slides down a bit too much. ;)

jetboy 10-24-19 09:52 AM

I like that the lug and scratch in the first pic spell CV

I am just glad the frame is not full of holes.. which is what I feared to see by the title.

tyrion 10-24-19 10:01 AM

More aerodynamic. Probably saves 0.2 watts at 40mph. Plus of course the weight savings. Win/win. Smart.


Originally Posted by wrk101 (Post 21177875)


steine13 10-24-19 10:09 AM

Both of these mods -- the number scratched in and the seat post nonsense -- look like some half-assed theft protection to me.

Homebrew01 10-24-19 10:33 AM

Less brake cable friction without the bends !

noglider 10-24-19 11:16 AM

Elegant!

markwesti 10-24-19 01:49 PM

https://www.cxmagazine.com/wp-conten...s_NAHBS_07.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...Ui_52CSK9ULg&s
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/29/aa...4e366617f9.jpg

John E 10-24-19 01:54 PM

It is analogous to routing the front brake cable down through the handlebar stem, as on my mountain bike, whose Nitto stem was made that way. Neither is very good if you want to adjust the seat or bar height.

repechage 10-24-19 02:17 PM

Chances of you being able to use seatpost st the same height or slightly higher? Marginal.
it could have been a contender if it had been done with more skill.
French Constructeurs did similar - through seat tubes and seat posts but with more finesse.

Mad Honk 10-24-19 02:26 PM

Well now that I have the SSN all I need is a name and addy so I can do some identity theft! It is not the safest theft protection these days. Smiles, MH

norskagent 10-24-19 03:03 PM

Got this raleigh competition at an estate sale last year with the same treatment, I kept the saddle and rally derailleur then sold the rest. I guess that cable routing was a thing for some back then.https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d584656fa7.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8cbc0e31ea.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7a6384a7dd.jpg

Chombi1 10-24-19 03:19 PM

Campy had a holder accessory, anchored to seatpost clamp pinch bolts that lined up the rear brake cable, centered above their Delta rear brake calipers. If only they invented it earlier, these drill happy owners from earlier times, might have thought twice about drilling their nice seatposts....

thumpism 10-24-19 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by JaccoW (Post 21178043)
Seeing as the speedometer is "Made in Holland" it might even be an import. Engraving the frame was a fairly common thing to do back then as an anti-theft measure.

IKU speedos were sold here, just as the Huret Multito (French) and later Cateye (Japanese) stuff.

Narhay 10-24-19 08:21 PM

So aero

Ronsonic 10-24-19 08:42 PM

That seat post is safer than the old cyclocross hole in the stem thing for the front canti.

UKFan4Sure 10-24-19 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Mad Honk (Post 21178532)
Well now that I have the SSN all I need is a name and addy so I can do some identity theft! It is not the safest theft protection these days. Smiles, MH

That's a Kentucky SS number....


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