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drop 10-04-12 07:32 PM

Building first bike help.
 
Hey there. Been lurking for a while reading up on different builds. And finally saved up a bit of cash for my own. But don't really know what all to get. I haves a budget of around $1600. I'm 5'9. 180. Any help would be great.

Zephyr11 10-04-12 08:24 PM

First bike you're building or first bike period? If it's the first bike you're building and you've been riding a while, what kind of riding do you do? What bike do you have now? What don't you like about your current bike? If it's your first bike, I'd highly recommend buying a complete...unless you're an eBay ninja with plenty of patience and plenty of know-how, you'll save a good amount of money that way.

roccobike 10-04-12 09:11 PM

If you're building a bike from higher end used parts off of the 'bay, you can build a pretty nice bike, the way you want it within you're budget of $1600, if you wait for the right parts and catch them at a good price. Used prices usually bottom out on ebay right before Christmas.
If you're building buying new parts, at $1600 you'd be way better off buying a complete LBS bike or maybe something from BD. Bike Manufacturers get huge bulk discounts from parts manufacturers. You will pay full list.

drop 10-04-12 09:33 PM

This will be my first adult bike. The main reason I thought of building is that everyone bike has their pros and cons. So I thought building would be a easier way instead of buying a built then upgrading.

speedy25 10-05-12 12:23 AM

I'll suggest buying a complete bike first so you can find out the pros and cons so the SECOND bike will be your fave.

Anyway you do it have fun!

I'm going to assemble some parts to make something affordable and fun for me over the winter. Thanks Rocco for the economy tip.

-SP

Tulok 10-05-12 01:21 PM

what do you want to do is the question

drop 10-05-12 10:00 PM

I appreciate all the advice. As for right now is like a decent trail bike. And maybe try a race.

Ride916 10-09-12 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by speedy25 (Post 14808675)
I'll suggest buying a complete bike first so you can find out the pros and cons so the SECOND bike will be your fave.
-SP

Agreed. There's too much subjective info on a forum for you to listen to other people's advice without your own foundation of knowledge and experience. I'd get a used bike that's well within your budget (focus on fit), then ride the crap out of it for a few thousand miles.

Then you'll know what you're looking for and will be able to build yourself a bike to fall in love with.

Dannihilator 10-09-12 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by drop (Post 14808413)
This will be my first adult bike. The main reason I thought of building is that everyone bike has their pros and cons. So I thought building would be a easier way instead of buying a built then upgrading.

While it is easier, it's not cost effective depending on your budget.

Gotte 10-24-12 01:26 PM

Not wishing to sound like an old coot, but I've been building bikes my whole life (I'm 48 now), and while there is nothing like it for whiling away the hours and getting those sinapses connected, it's a hell of a learning curve. I personally started because we had no money as kids, and that was the only way to get a ride (can you hear the violins swell, yet?). If it were me, and wanted a decent bike, and had enough money, I'd probably buy a half decent bike, hell, maybe even a less than half decent bike with a decent frame, and start swapping out over time. That way I'd have something to ride which I hadn;t sunk a ton of money into, and yet had something to learn wrenching on. Of course, that's only good advice if you live in my head (I wouldn;t advise that). But rule of thumb - bike building is much like anything; you do, you learn. And no better way of learning than rolling your sleeves up and getting your fingers dirty. Of course, if it's a premium ride your after at the end of it, the cheap upbuild may not be the best way to go. You'll end up with a drawer full of cheap parts and a bike which is a beaut - except for that cheap frame...
But then again, I imagine we've all got a garage full of bits (and a few frames stashed in the rafters that the missus doesn't know about).
I could also give you advice on the missus. Just don't tell her I said that ;)

Does that make any sense whatsoever?

YamiRider1316 10-24-12 03:17 PM

Should just save up a lil more cash and swoop something like this: http://www.jensonusa.com/!zJ0CPWWqq9...FW-CQgodjXsAxg. Then you would be set. Like previously stated if this is your first decent bike IMO you would be better off buying a complete bike and then upgrading components that youre not happy with on it. Though doable, itll be hard to build a bike specd like the above for 1600 or around that price. Unless you're shopping around, watching ebay/craigslist etc and have some time to kill, building a bike is often more expensive than buying complete.

ColinL 10-30-12 06:09 PM

There is some really good advice here. Let me chime in my $0.02 in an overly long-winded way. ;) :D

My dad and I got 'new' FS bikes this year.

He bought a BMC Speedfox (26") from Speedgoat when they put it on model year-end clearance. He paid $2699 and it retailed for $3599. It has a full Shimano XT group less the chain (KMC DX-10), good wheels, a Fox Evolution RL fork and a Fox RP2 shock. (BTW Speedgoat now has mediums left for $2399, if you are interested.) It's a 2012 and lacks a Shadow or Shadow Plus rear derailleur. Kind of annoying, all that chain slap. But I've ridden the bike and it's fast and awesome.

I bought a 2004 Santa Cruz Blur frame with an old Fox Float R AVA shock and bought all-new parts as cheap as I could from mostly Ebay, but a little Amazon and Competitive Cyclist. I paid $2830 total. I just bought a new CTD Trail Adjust shock which brings my total investment to $3200. But you can't buy a bike with X9 drivetrain, X0 twist grips, and a kashima fork and shock for that, even on clearance.


I just did 14 miles on his bike today. I've done hundreds on mine. His bike is pretty damn good. I'd say it is 8/10ths of mine-- for less money, a warranty on the frame, and really it only gives up some adjustability and smoothness in the suspension. This was my first build and I put about 20 hours in it. :lol: Previously, I had only done routine maintenance, but on my bike I did everything except the headset (no bearing press, and I didn't want to ghetto it). Next time I could build a bike in under 8 hours, but I'd still spend hours researching parts and finding the best deals.

Anyone can get a deal like my dad did if you do some research and know what you need, or just take a chance and get lucky, and most importantly strike fast once you see a deal you know you want. But many LBSes don't discount their end-of-year bikes anywhere near what the big online resellers do. $1600 is enough money to get a good hardtail bike. If you want full suspension, you'll be able to get a very rideable, mid-entry bike if you get the right deal.

Lexi01 10-30-12 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by drop (Post 14812121)
I appreciate all the advice. As for right now is like a decent trail bike. And maybe try a race.

So this will be your first bike since you were a kid and you want to not only build it but race it when you're done?

Just buy one dude...ride it...for a few years...see what you end up doing...end up liking...then maybe build one. Unless you just want to build cos you think it'll be fun...in that case all power to you.


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